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Subject: Re: [xri] <uri>element in <link> of XRD


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You asked should type at the XRD level be kept ad Type or changed to  
ResourceType.

Yes the Subject of an XRD is a Resource  so my point is that rather  
than ResourceType SubjectType is clearer to me that the Type is  
refering to the "Thing" the XRD is about as opposed to the Type of XRD  
it is as was the case in the previous spec.

I can live with calling it ResourceType but I think that is more  
confusing to people, in that it perhaps infers a relationship to the  
media type of the URI that is not intended.

URI name Resources both "Information and non-information".  So seeing  
ResourceType leads me to think it is making an assertion about the URI  
that named the resource.

For example:
The URI https://foo.example.com/xrd/ve7jtb.xrd  is a URI that names a  
XRD resource.
The URI https://foo.example.com/ve7jtb  is a URI that names my Blog

If my blog returns a link header saying described by https://foo.example.com/xrd/ve7jtb.xrd
I can use it as my openID

Now consider the XRD

<XRD >
  <Subject>https://foo.example.com/ve7jtb#user12786</Subject>
  <ResourceType>"URN:Person"</ResourceType>

  <link>
    <rel>My OpenID Provider</rel>
    <localid>mylocalid</localid>
  <ResourceType>http://specs.openid.net/auth/2.0/signon</ResourceType>
    <URI>https://example.com/server</URI>
  </link>

</XRD>

So the resource type is not about https://foo.example.com/xrd/ 
ve7jtb.xrd becuse that clearly is the name of a "infomation resource"  
returning a 200 contaning a XRD document.

ResourceType is also not referring to https://foo.example.com/ve7jtb  
as that is also a "infomation resource" returning a 200 contaning a  
HTML document I suspect.

I think ResourceType is referring to the URI https://foo.example.com/ve7jtb 
#user12786 that is a "non-information resource/ real world  
object"  (see http://www.w3.org/TR/cooluris)

If the XRD was describing the blog information resource then the  
Subject should be https://foo.example.com/ve7jtb and the ResourceType  
Blog/txt+html or whatever we are going to use for that.

In ether case the type is really about the subject of the XRD and that  
may or may not have anything to do with any of the URI that were used  
to discover or retrieve the XRD.

So I vote for SubjectType rather than ResourceType.

I also think that using a fragment in the subject to denote that it is  
not a "information resource" is a good practice that enables URI  
recycling.

However I will not force people to bend to the W3C's will.

=jbradley


On 30-Jan-09, at 1:00 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote:

> How does it help? Can you give a use case?
>
> EHL
>
> From: John Bradley [mailto:jbradley@mac.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 6:52 AM
> To: Eran Hammer-Lahav
> Cc: Nat Sakimura; XRI TC
> Subject: Re: [xri] <uri>element in <link> of XRD
>
> If as we discussed on the call yesterday cannonicalID becomes  
> Subject  as in "the subject of the XRD" then we should consider  
> having SubjectType at the XRD level.
>
> If the XRD is about the subject the type is really making a  
> assertion about that subject.
>
> If the value of SubjrctType is  "Person" then I am saying that the  
> subject is an identifier for a person not a service etc.
>
> I think this also works if the Subject is not explicitly stated in  
> the XRD.
>
> =jbradley
>
> On 30-Jan-09, at 2:36 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote:
>
>
> It is (a) which does not guarantee that the descriptor of the  
> resource identified by the <URI> will have the value of the <URI> as  
> its subject. I know Brian has a similar requirement for his trust  
> proposal.
>
> Since this seems like a trust-related requirement, I will wait until  
> we have a more complete trust solution to comment on that.
>
> We still have an open question if the <ResourceType> element at the  
> <XRD> level should be called ResourceType or Type. At the <Link>  
> level we agreed on ResourceType.
>
> EHL
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nat Sakimura [mailto:n-sakimura@nri.co.jp]
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:28 PM
> To: XRI TC
> Subject: [xri] <uri>element in <link> of XRD
>
> Accroding to today's dicussion, it looks like XRD would look something
> like:
>
> <XRD sig="URI of the signature file"
> sigalg="http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmldsig#rsa-sha1"; certuri="pem file
> location">
>  <Subject>Unique_identifier</Subject>
>  <SignerID>Unique_identifier</SignerID>
>  <ResourceType>...</ResourceType>
>  <link>
>    <rel>My OpenID Provider</rel>
>    <localid>mylocalid</localid>
>
> <ResourceType>http://specs.openid.net/auth/2.0/signon</ResourceType>
>    <ResourceType>http://specs.openid.net/cx/1.0</ResourceType>
>    <URI>https://example.com/server</URI>
>  </link>
>  <link>
>    <rel>my age verification service</rel>
>    <localid>...</localid>
>    <ProviderID>https://sts.equifax.com/#20081203000000</ProviderID>
>    <ResourceType>http://schemas.informationcard.net/@ics/age-18-or-
> over/2008-11</ResourceType>
>    <URI>https://sts.equifax.com/</URI>
>  </link>
> </XRD>
>
>
> My question is
>
> (1) Does <URI> points to
>      (a) Service Endpoint
>      (b) XRD address of the Service
>      (c) <Subject> in the XRD of the Service.
>
> If it is not (c), then it would be really nice to have
> something like <Subject> at the <link> level so that
> we can potentially test that the destination really is the
> intended destination.
>
> =nat
>
>
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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">You asked should type at the =
XRD level be kept ad Type or changed to =
ResourceType.<div><br></div><div>Yes the Subject of an XRD is a Resource =
&nbsp;so my point is that rather than ResourceType SubjectType is =
clearer to me that the Type is refering to the "Thing" the XRD is about =
as opposed to the Type of XRD it is as was the case in the previous =
spec.</div><div><br></div><div>I can live with calling it ResourceType =
but I think that is more confusing to people, in that it perhaps infers =
a&nbsp;relationship&nbsp;to the media type of the URI that is not =
intended.</div><div><br></div><div>URI name Resources both "Information =
and non-information". &nbsp;So seeing ResourceType leads me to think it =
is making an assertion about the URI that named the resource. =
&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>For example:</div><div>The URI <a =
href=3D"https://foo.example.com/xrd/ve7jtb.xrd";>https://foo.example.com/xr=
d/ve7jtb.xrd</a> &nbsp;is a URI that names a XRD resource.</div><div>The =
URI <a =
href=3D"https://foo.example.com/ve7jtb";>https://foo.example.com/ve7jtb</a>=
 &nbsp;is a URI that names my Blog</div><div><br></div><div>If my blog =
returns a link header saying described by&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://foo.example.com/xrd/ve7jtb.xrd";>https://foo.example.com/xr=
d/ve7jtb.xrd</a></div><div>I can use it as my =
openID</div><div><br></div><div>Now consider the XRD<span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; =
font-size: 16px; "></span></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"'Times New Roman'" size=3D"4"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><br></span></font></div><div><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; =
font-size: 16px; ">&lt;XRD&nbsp;></span></div><div><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><blockquote =
style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
'Times New Roman', serif; ">&nbsp;&lt;Subject><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; "><a =
href=3D"https://foo.example.com/ve7jtb";>https://foo.example.com/ve7jtb</a>=
#user12786</span>&lt;/Subject></div></blockquote><blockquote =
style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
'Times New Roman', serif; ">&nbsp;&lt;ResourceType>"<a =
href=3D"URN:Person">URN:Person</a>"&lt;/ResourceType><o:p></o:p></div><div=
 style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><br></div></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: =
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">&nbsp;&lt;link><o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote =
style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;rel>My OpenID =
Provider&lt;/rel><o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote =
style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;localid>mylocalid&lt;/localid><o:p></o:p></div></b=
lockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; =
"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;&lt;ResourceType><a =
href=3D"http://specs.openid.net/auth/2.0/signon"; style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline; =
">http://specs.openid.net/auth/2.0/signon</a>&lt;/ResourceType></o:p></div=
></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; =
"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote =
style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;URI><a href=3D"https://example.com/server"; =
style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline; =
">https://example.com/server</a>&lt;/URI><o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><bl=
ockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; ">&nbsp;&lt;/link></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; =
">&lt;/XRD></div></blockquote></span></div><div><br></div><div>So the =
resource type is not about&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://foo.example.com/xrd/ve7jtb.xrd";>https://foo.example.com/xr=
d/ve7jtb.xrd</a> becuse that clearly is the name of a "infomation =
resource" returning a 200 contaning a XRD =
document.</div><div><br></div><div>ResourceType is also =
not&nbsp;referring&nbsp;to&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://foo.example.com/ve7jtb";>https://foo.example.com/ve7jtb</a>=
 as that is also a&nbsp;"infomation resource" returning a 200 contaning =
a HTML document I suspect.</div><div><br></div><div>I =
think&nbsp;ResourceType is&nbsp;referring&nbsp;to the =
URI&nbsp;https://foo.example.com/ve7jtb#user12786 that is a =
"non-information resource/ real world object" &nbsp;(see <a =
href=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/cooluris)">http://www.w3.org/TR/cooluris)</a>=
&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>If the XRD was describing the blog =
information resource then the Subject should be&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://foo.example.com/ve7jtb";>https://foo.example.com/ve7jtb</a>=
 and the ResourceType Blog/txt+html or whatever we are going to use for =
that.</div><div><br></div><div>In ether case the type =
is&nbsp;really&nbsp;about the subject of the XRD and that may or may not =
have anything to do with any of the URI that were used to discover =
or&nbsp;retrieve&nbsp;the XRD.</div><div><br></div><div>So I vote for =
SubjectType rather than ResourceType.</div><div><br></div><div>I also =
think that using a fragment in the subject to denote that it is not a =
"information resource" is a good practice that enables URI =
recycling.</div><div><br></div><div>However I will not force people to =
bend to the W3C's =
will.</div><div><br></div><div>=3Djbradley</div><div><br></div><div><br><d=
iv><div>On 30-Jan-09, at 1:00 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" =
vlink=3D"purple" style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: =
space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div =
class=3D"Section1"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">How does it help? Can =
you give a use case?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">EHL<o:p></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"border-top-style: none; =
border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-width: =
initial; border-color: initial; border-left-style: solid; =
border-left-color: blue; border-left-width: 1.5pt; padding-top: 0in; =
padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 4pt; "><div><div =
style=3D"border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; =
border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; =
border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); =
border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0in; =
padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 0in; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; =
">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, =
sans-serif; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>John =
Bradley [<a href=3D"mailto:jbradley@mac.com"; style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:jbradley@mac.com</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Friday, January 30, 2009 =
6:52 AM<br><b>To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Eran =
Hammer-Lahav<br><b>Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Nat Sakimura; XRI =
TC<br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [xri] &lt;uri>element =
in &lt;link> of XRD<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">If as =
we&nbsp;discussed&nbsp;on the call&nbsp;yesterday&nbsp;cannonicalID =
becomes Subject &nbsp;as in "the subject of the XRD" then we should =
consider having SubjectType at the XRD level.<o:p></o:p></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; ">If the XRD is about the subject the type =
is&nbsp;really&nbsp;making a&nbsp;assertion&nbsp;about that =
subject.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">If the value of =
SubjrctType is &nbsp;"Person" then I am saying that the subject is =
an&nbsp;identifier&nbsp;for a person not a service =
etc.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">I think this also works =
if the Subject is not&nbsp;explicitly&nbsp;stated in the =
XRD.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">=3Djbradley<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On 30-Jan-09, at 2:36 AM, =
Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">It is (a) which does not =
guarantee that the descriptor of the resource identified by the &lt;URI> =
will have the value of the &lt;URI> as its subject. I know Brian has a =
similar requirement for his trust proposal.<br><br>Since this seems like =
a trust-related requirement, I will wait until we have a more complete =
trust solution to comment on that.<br><br>We still have an open question =
if the &lt;ResourceType> element at the &lt;XRD> level should be called =
ResourceType or Type. At the &lt;Link> level we agreed on =
ResourceType.<br><br>EHL<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; ">-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></div><blockquote =
style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">From: Nat =
Sakimura [<a href=3D"mailto:n-sakimura@nri.co.jp"; style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline; =
">mailto:n-sakimura@nri.co.jp</a>]<o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquot=
e style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; ">Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:28 =
PM<o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
'Times New Roman', serif; ">To: XRI =
TC<o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
'Times New Roman', serif; ">Subject: [xri] &lt;uri>element in &lt;link> =
of XRD<o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: =
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: =
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Accroding to today's dicussion, =
it looks like XRD would look =
something<o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: =
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">like:<o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: =
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: =
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">&lt;XRD sig=3D"URI of the =
signature file"<o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote =
style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">sigalg=3D"<a =
href=3D"http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmldsig#rsa-sha1"; style=3D"color: =
blue; text-decoration: underline; =
">http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmldsig#rsa-sha1</a>" certuri=3D"pem =
file<o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
'Times New Roman', serif; =
">location"><o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:=
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font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">&nbsp;&lt;Subject>Unique_identifier&lt;/Subject><o:p></o:p></div></block=
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">&nbsp;&lt;ResourceType>...&lt;/ResourceType><o:p></o:p></div></blockquot=
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style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
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">&nbsp;&lt;link><o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote =
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">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;rel>My OpenID =
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">http://specs.openid.net/auth/2.0/signon</a>&lt;/ResourceType><o:p></o:p>=
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"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
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href=3D"https://example.com/server"; style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline; =
">https://example.com/server</a>&lt;/URI><o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><bl=
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">&nbsp;&lt;/link><o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote =
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0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;rel>my age verification =
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0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
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ote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; ">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;ProviderID><a =
href=3D"https://sts.equifax.com/"; style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: =
underline; =
">https://sts.equifax.com/</a>#20081203000000&lt;/ProviderID><o:p></o:p></=
div></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: =
5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: =
0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; ">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;ResourceType><a =
href=3D"http://schemas.informationcard.net/@ics/age-18-or-"; =
style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline; =
">http://schemas.informationcard.net/@ics/age-18-or-</a><o:p></o:p></div><=
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"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; =
">over/2008-11&lt;/ResourceType><o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote =
style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;URI><a href=3D"https://sts.equifax.com/"; =
style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline; =
">https://sts.equifax.com/</a>&lt;/URI><o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><bloc=
kquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; =
">&nbsp;&lt;/link><o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote =
style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">&lt;/XRD><o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: =
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: =
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: =
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">My question =
is<o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: =
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">(1) Does &lt;URI> points =
to<o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
'Times New Roman', serif; ">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(a) Service =
Endpoint<o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: =
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(b) XRD address of the =
Service<o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: =
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(c) &lt;Subject> in the XRD of the =
Service.<o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: =
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: =
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">If it is not (c), then it would =
be really nice to have<o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote =
style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">something like =
&lt;Subject> at the &lt;link> level so =
that<o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
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really is the<o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote =
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