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Subject: Re: [xri] Question regarding XRI 3.0 resolution where a redirect isdesired
I think you are confusing some XDI ideas that don't exist in XRI. XRI resolution returns a XRD or a subset of the XRD if you are doing service selection. =Bill.Barnhill@communitivity is a community root authority administered by =Bill.Barnhill and is only an unverified inference that it somehow relates to @communitivity. That is what some people object to about XRI 3.0 syntax. if there is a @communitivity authority it needs to create an authority service that can serve the XRD for its child nodes like =Bill.Barnhill Again that node has no direct relation to the root =Bill.Barnhill. Anyone can create a entry in there a community directory for =Bill.Barnhill You can ref or redirect in the authority segment but not in the path. The Path is part of service selection. So yes you could have a ref from =Bill.Barnhill to =Bill.Barnhill@communitivity to @communitivity=Bill.Barnhill and perform the service selection for +blog on the final XRD. Refs change the subject and redirects don't in XRI 2.0 so they are not the same. Remember in XRI you are resolving the XRD or a service in the XRI not a data value as you might in XDI. John B. On 3-Jul-09, at 9:32 AM, Barnhill, William [USA] wrote: > > Thanks John, that does help but I still have a few questions. > Though I know about the left to right my thought is that some > individual, say =Bill.Barnhill, is delegating their data to > @communitivity so =Bill.Barnhill/+blog resolves to what > =Bill.Barnhill@communitivity/+blog resolves to. This will only work > for my use if XRI resolution redirects are referer aware. Is there > any mechanism to pass the source a a redirect in resolution? If > not, was that considered and rejected or didn't come up until now? > Either way I'd like to know thoughts on it. The idea of being able > to tell the previously resolved subsegment during resolution and > having resolution be able to resolve differently depending on that > info seems like a powerful ability not just limited to my use case. > > I could have it redirect to directly to > @Communitivity=Bill.Barnhill/+blog but I'd really like to be able to > redirect first to =Bill.Barnhill@communitivity/+blog and then if > desired redirect to @Communitivity=Bill.Barnhill/+blog. > > Thanks, > =Bill.Barnhill > > > ________________________________________ > From: John Bradley [jbradley@mac.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:49 PM > To: Barnhill, William [USA] > Cc: xri@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: Re: [xri] Question regarding XRI 3.0 resolution where a > redirect is desired > > Bill XRI are left to right so I think you mean redirect to > @communitivity=Bill.Barnhill/+blog > > The / indicates the start of the path and is used for service > selection not authority resolution. > > So from an XRI resolution point of view. > =Bill.Barnhill/+blog is a one subsegment XRI with a path of > +blog it is the SEP of your blog in the =Bill.Barnhill XRD > =Bill.Barnhill+blog is a two subsegment XRI with no path It is > the XRD of your blog > @communitivity=Bill.Barnhill/+blog s a two subsegment XRI with a > path of +blog, @communitivity has an authority service that resolves > =Bill.Barnhill that XRD is searched for a +blog service. > > Don't know if that helps. > > John B. > On 2-Jul-09, at 7:25 PM, Barnhill, William [USA] wrote: > >> >> Apologies to the list, am resending due to incorrect subject. >> >> I have a question on XRD that I'd appreciate any help on. I was >> trying to figure out the resolution steps with XRI 3.0 for the use >> case where say I have an XRI =Bill.Barnhill/+blog that redirects to >> where data actually is =Bill.Barnhill@communitivity/+blog? >> >> Also would this be typically represented as =Bill.Barnhill+blog >> rather than =Bill.Barnhill/+blog? >> >> Thanks, >> Bill >> ________________________________________ >> From: Barnhill, William [USA] [barnhill_william@bah.com] >> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 4:54 PM >> To: Mary McRae; xri@lists.oasis-open.org >> Subject: RE: [xri] Fwd: Mary: SVN for XRI TC? >> >> Hi Mary, I just checked and we don't have an XDI SVN repo yet..could >> we get that as well? >> >> Thanks, >> Bill >> ________________________________________ >> From: Mary McRae [mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org] >> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:52 PM >> To: xri@lists.oasis-open.org >> Subject: [xri] Fwd: Mary: SVN for XRI TC? >> >> An SVN area has been created for the XRI TC. It is tied into Kavi >> authentication, meaning anyone who is a TC member has write access; >> the rest of the world (incuding TC observers) are read-only. >> http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/xri/?sc=0 >> >> There are some rules regarding its use posted here: >> http://tools.oasis-open.org/ >> >> most importantly, please remember the following: >> >> * At least once a month (unless no work has been done), and prior >> to each TC meeting at which one or more documents will be discussed, >> a Working Draft of any/all documents must be uploaded to the TC >> document repository, properly identified according to the Naming >> Guidelines (links to the non-Kavi system are insufficient) >> * All TC member reviews and ballots must be based on a Working >> Draft as posted to the TC document repository (links to the non-Kavi >> system are insufficient) >> >> Caveat: I am not an SVN expert; I hardly remember what SVN stands >> for. We are not providing 'help'. You can ask me questions but I >> won't be able to answer them. >> >> Regards, >> >> Mary >> >> >> Mary P McRae >> Director, Standards Development >> Technical Committee Administrator >> OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society >> email: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org<mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org> >> web: www.oasis-open.org<http://www.oasis-open.org> >> twitter: fiberartisan #oasisopen >> phone: 1.603.232.9090 >> >> Standards are like parachutes: they work best when they're open. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: Neil Joseph Schelly <neil.schelly@oasis-open.org<mailto:neil.schelly@oasis-open.org >>>> >> Date: May 12, 2009 1:32:30 PM EDT >> To: Mary McRae <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org<mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org >>>> >> Subject: Re: Fwd: Mary: SVN for XRI TC? >> >> Done. >> -N >> >> On Tuesday 12 May 2009 12:04:14 pm you wrote: >> Hi Neil, >> >> Please set up SVN for XRI. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Mary >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> From: "Drummond Reed" <drummond.reed@cordance.net<mailto:drummond.reed@cordance.net >>>> >> Date: May 12, 2009 2:25:19 AM EDT >> To: <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org<mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>> >> Cc: "'Will Norris'" >> <will@willnorris.com<mailto:will@willnorris.com>>, "'Eran Hammer- >> Lahav'" >> <eran@hueniverse.com<mailto:eran@hueniverse.com> >> >> , "'John Bradley'" <jbradley@mac.com<mailto:jbradley@mac.com>> >> >> Subject: Mary: SVN for XRI TC? >> >> Mary, >> >> The XRD 1.0 editor team at the XRI TC is going to be using DocBook, >> and >> they'd really like an SVN repository so they can check in changes to >> different parts of the doc as they go. >> >> Can you set us up with access to the OASIS SVN? And if so, how long >> will it >> take (right now I think we'd only need 2-3 TC members needing >> accounts). >> >> Thanks, >> >> =Drummond >> >> >> >> -- >> Neil Schelly, Senior Systems Administrator >> OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society >> http://www.oasis-open.org/ >> W: +1.978.667.5115 x213 >> M: +1.508.410.4776 >> >> New to OASIS? Take a Tour >> http://www.oasis-open.org/home/tour.php >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that >> generates this mail. Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: >> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/ >> my_workgroups.php >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that >> generates this mail. Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: >> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/ >> my_workgroups.php >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that > generates this mail. Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: > https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php >
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