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Subject: Re: [xri] next steps for XRD 1.0
--Apple-Mail-711--125057477 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-710--125057617 --Apple-Mail-710--125057617 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It would be a good idea to line up the required yes votes. The problem will be if there are no votes, it doesn't take many to kill = it. =20 I doubt there will be any organized opposition this time. Getting some of the big guys in early will be important. MS will probably abstain because of their policy of not voting on specs = that they are not participating in. We can ask Tony if they will make = an exception though he is not the voting member. John B. On 2010-09-23, at 3:58 PM, Barnhill, William [USA] wrote: > What does everyone think of an organized voting/socialization campaign = for this vote? By that I mean we... > 1) Collectively determine which reps we know and list them, then = determine who will approach each in a 1-1 manner (face2face, phone, = email) > 2) Track responses we get from 1on1s, including responses on whether = they would be able to do a yes vote in August and detailed feedback on = the spec > 3) When we get some # of votes needed (min + ?) then we submit > 4) If necessary revise and regen a new community draft based on = comments > =20 > You know me..I can't resist saying that an OASIS Tool to do the above = would be very nice..maybe vote.oasis-open.org (and wrap voting on specs = in their as well). I know there's not enough cycles, but food for = thought. > =20 > From: drummond.reed@gmail.com [mailto:drummond.reed@gmail.com] On = Behalf Of Drummond Reed > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:42 PM > To: Will Norris > Cc: XRI TC; Mary McRae > Subject: Re: [xri] next steps for XRD 1.0 >=20 > In theory, yes, I _think_ we have time to request an OASIS Standard = vote before July 15. However, that would place the actual vote in = August. And the actual voting itself always takes place the last two = weeks of the month. >=20 > So a very real question is: do we want to try for an OASIS Standard = vote in August, when more than half the members are on vacation? Or = should we wait for September? >=20 > Mary: the TC could really use your input on this. >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > =3DDrummond=20 >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Will Norris <willnorris@google.com> = wrote: > we now have the required 2/3 'yes' votes for Committee Specification. = Assuming we don't get 4 'no' votes between now and Sunday, the ballot = will pass. So time to start planning for the next steps... >=20 > - once the vote is final, i'll generate the new CS version of the = spec, and get that to Mary to be published. >=20 > - we need three "statements of use". Mary, do you have a few = examples we can reference for what those should look like? Also, do = they need to come from the Organizational Member's primary contact, or = can it be anyone within the organization? >=20 > - do we know that we have three organizations that can provide = Statements of Use? Looking at the TC Process, it appears that they must = come form "Organizational Members", which means Yahoo! will not be able = to count as one of the three. Google certainly can, and I believe = George indicated that AOL would likely be able to. Who will be the = third? Is XDI currently publishing or consuming XRD? >=20 > Once this current CS vote is closed and we have the three statements = of use in hand, we must have one final vote to request that XRD be = submitted for an OASIS Standard vote. That must commence before the = 15th of the month. If we move quickly, we can do that by July 15th, = otherwise we can do it next month. >=20 > (and even though we do have the required votes for CS, I'd like to = have as near a unanimous decision as possible.... please go vote if you = haven't already) >=20 > - will >=20 --Apple-Mail-710--125057617 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">It would be a good idea to line up the required yes votes.<div><br></div><div>The problem will be if there are no votes, it doesn't take many to kill it. </div><div>I doubt there will be any organized opposition this time.</div><div><br></div><div>Getting some of the big guys in early will be important.</div><div><br></div><div>MS will probably abstain because of their policy of not voting on specs that they are not participating in. We can ask Tony if they will make an exception though he is not the voting member.</div><div><br></div><div>John B.<br><div><div>On 2010-09-23, at 3:58 PM, Barnhill, William [USA] wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"> <div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="635065319-23092010">What does everyone think of an organized voting/socialization campaign for this vote? By that I mean we...</span></font></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="635065319-23092010">1) Collectively determine which reps we know and list them, then determine who will approach each in a 1-1 manner (face2face, phone, email)</span></font></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="635065319-23092010">2) Track responses we get from 1on1s, including responses on whether they would be able to do a yes vote in August and detailed feedback on the spec</span></font></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="635065319-23092010">3) When we get some # of votes needed (min + ?) then we submit</span></font></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="635065319-23092010">4) If necessary revise and regen a new community draft based on comments</span></font></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="635065319-23092010"></span></font> </div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="635065319-23092010">You know me..I can't resist saying that an OASIS Tool to do the above would be very nice..maybe <a href="http://vote.oasis-open.org";>vote.oasis-open.org</a> (and wrap voting on specs in their as well). I know there's not enough cycles, but food for thought.</span></font></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="635065319-23092010"></span></font> </div> <div class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left"> <hr tabindex="-1"> <font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:drummond.reed@gmail.com";>drummond.reed@gmail.com</a> [mailto:drummond.reed@gmail.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Drummond Reed<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> Will Norris<br><b>Cc:</b> XRI TC; Mary McRae<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [xri] next steps for XRD 1.0<br></font><br></div> <div></div>In theory, yes, I _think_ we have time to request an OASIS Standard vote before July 15. However, that would place the actual vote in August. And the actual voting itself always takes place the last two weeks of the month.<br><br>So a very real question is: do we want to try for an OASIS Standard vote in August, when more than half the members are on vacation? Or should we wait for September?<br><br>Mary: the TC could really use your input on this.<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>=Drummond <br><br><br> <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Will Norris <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:willnorris@google.com";>willnorris@google.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">we now have the required 2/3 'yes' votes for Committee Specification. Assuming we don't get 4 'no' votes between now and Sunday, the ballot will pass. So time to start planning for the next steps... <div><br></div> <div> - once the vote is final, i'll generate the new CS version of the spec, and get that to Mary to be published.</div> <div><br></div> <div> - we need three "statements of use". Mary, do you have a few examples we can reference for what those should look like? Also, do they need to come from the Organizational Member's primary contact, or can it be anyone within the organization?</div> <div><br></div> <div> - do we know that we have three organizations that can provide Statements of Use? Looking at the TC Process, it appears that they must come form "Organizational Members", which means Yahoo! will not be able to count as one of the three. Google certainly can, and I believe George indicated that AOL would likely be able to. Who will be the third? Is XDI currently publishing or consuming XRD?<br> <div><br></div> <div>Once this current CS vote is closed and we have the three statements of use in hand, we must have one final vote to request that XRD be submitted for an OASIS Standard vote. That must commence before the 15th of the month. If we move quickly, we can do that by July 15th, otherwise we can do it next month.</div></div> <div><br></div> <div>(and even though we do have the required votes for CS, I'd like to have as near a unanimous decision as possible.... please go vote if you haven't already)</div> <div><br></div><font color="#888888"> <div>- will</div></font></blockquote></div><br></div> </blockquote></div><br></div></body></html> --Apple-Mail-710--125057617-- --Apple-Mail-711--125057477 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIO9TCCBwsw ggXzoAMCAQICAgZDMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMIGMMQswCQYDVQQGEwJJTDEWMBQGA1UEChMNU3Rh cnRDb20gTHRkLjErMCkGA1UECxMiU2VjdXJlIERpZ2l0YWwgQ2VydGlmaWNhdGUgU2lnbmluZzE4 MDYGA1UEAxMvU3RhcnRDb20gQ2xhc3MgMiBQcmltYXJ5IEludGVybWVkaWF0ZSBDbGllbnQgQ0Ew 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