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Subject: Minutes of teleconference 2000-07-06 13:00-15:00EDT


Meeting called to order at 2000-07-06 13:05; many thanks were offered to 
Eduardo for having Sun host our teleconference.

Roll call and quorum
   Present:
     John Evdemon, XMLSolutions
     John Robert Gardner, ATLA-CERTR, Emory University
     Tony Graham, Mulberry Technologies, Inc.
     G. Ken Holman, Crane Softwrights Ltd. (chair)
     David Marston, Lotus Development Corp.
     Carmelo Montanez, NIST
   Regrets received:
     Lynda VanVleet, Class Integrated Quality, Inc.
   Absent:
     (none)
   Visitors:
     Eduardo Gutentag, Sun (host)
     Rick Rivello, NIST
     Lynne Rosenthal, NIST


Agenda
- David - request to add an announcements item to the agenda
- motion by JR to accept agenda as amended - no objections


Minutes of the last meeting
- review of minutes of last meeting
   - http://www.xml.org/archives/xslt-conformance/2000/06/0018.html
- consideration of 
http://www.xml.org/archives/xslt-conformance/2000/06/0021.html
   - resulting items to add to minutes of the meeting of 2000-06-05:

1. Higher-ups at NIST were present for part of the day and described OASIS 
efforts to improve conformance testing in general.  Visitors from NIST 
included: Mark Skall, Lynne Rosenthal, and Rick Rivello.

2. We began to explore how discretionary aspects of the XSLT processor 
implementation will be incorporated into the testing process. Those present 
were generally assuming that the committee will devise a set of questions 
that represent the particular choices, and vendors would be encouraged to 
make public statements to answer each question.  Discussion also considered 
this as meaningful input to the rendition control instance.

3. Reports or discussions of this effort may happen ad-hoc at any XML 
conference where one or more committee members happen to be present.

4. The product of this committee will have some form of 
intellectual-property protection. See 
http://www.oasis-open.org/html/oasis-ipr.html for more details

- motion by David to accept as amended - no objections


Reports of standing committees
- no standing committees yet established


Announcements
- David - David will accept comments regarding vague aspects of the 
specification for passing on to XSL Working Group - Eduardo also makes 
himself available to do so - as a general ongoing action, all members are 
to look for vague areas and report to David and/or Eduardo to pass on to 
the W3C

Outstanding action items
   - 20000605-ACT-1 (Carmelo) - propose web site contents
      - completed
   - 20000605-ACT-2 (Tony) - letter for Norbert for June 6/2000
      - completed
   - 20000605-ACT-3 (All) - contribute to resolution development for next 
meeting
        - inclusion of test harness and/or test delivery vehicle in 
deliverables
        - policy regarding test review by the committee
        - general architecture of the package produced by the committee
      - to be handled during today's meeting
   - 20000605-ACT-4: (Ken) - set up teleconference for next meeting
     - completed
   - 20000301-ACT-1: (Ken) request write-only FTP address at OASIS
     - pending response from OASIS
   - 20000301-ACT-3: (Dain) contact extensibility for any possible test files
     - moved to John
   - 20000301-ACT-4: (Ken) contact Keith Visco for any possible test files
     - complete - no response
   - 20000301-ACT-5: (Ken) contact James Clark for any possible test files
     - complete - no response

Agenda items
  - inclusion of test harness and/or test delivery vehicle in deliverables
    - question about platform independence
    - moved by Carmelo - not included but referred to at the same place we 
distribute our deliverables
      - no objections
  - policy regarding test review by the committee
    - action - JR to draft wording
  - general architecture of the package produced by the committee
    - Tony's list of choices
      - http://www.xml.org/archives/xslt-conformance/2000/06/0034.html
      - 
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/xslt/contributions/xslt-error-Graham-20 
   000627.html
   - data flow diagram
      - action - Ken to update diagram to reflect human legible report in 
XHTML rather than HTML so that a user/vendor can choose to mine the XHTML 
using XSLT (which wouldn't be possible if the file were HTML)
    - submitters' contributions
    - development plan
      - organization of submitter files
        - David will comment
      - organization of the XML report
        - Tony will comment
      - organization of the HTML reports
        - Carmelo will comment
- web site
   - David's comments - regarding test suite availability that invites 
comment from the public
     - web site to note that we'll have public meetings and the generic 
address for any comments or questions
     - work page will summarize any correspondence and its disposition
     - standing agenda item to review the disposition of correspondence
- date, venue and objectives of September Boston meeting
   - Wed Sept. 6, 2000 starting in the morning, probably Lotus premises


New and old action items for next meeting
  - 20000706-ACT-1: (Ken) call to XSLT list for test files
  - 20000706-ACT-2: (Tony) incorporate discretionary
  - 20000706-ACT-3: (JR) draft policy wording
  - 20000706-ACT-4: (Tony) propose navigation mechanism for Recommendation 
files
  - 20000706-ACT-5: (David) set up Boston meeting
  - 20000706-ACT-6: (Ken) update diagram re: XHTML
  - 20000605-ACT-3: (All) consider general architecture of the package 
produced by the committee
    - ongoing action item
  - 20000301-ACT-1: (Ken) request write-only FTP address at OASIS
    - pending response

Next meeting draft agenda
   - look at categorization and orientation of our package files and the 
users report of those

Adjournment - 14:55


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