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Subject: RE: [bpel4people] Issues Process


I deliberately separated out the process from the tool(s) so that we can make independent decisions.

As for JIA vs Bugzilla, a hosted JIRA was offered to us so a choice was not really given. 
I do have experience of both  and I don't see any significant differences between the two.
There are some  zealots that wage wars over one versus the other, but both our capable of 
supporting the issues process presented. 

Martin.



>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dave Ings [mailto:ings@ca.ibm.com] 
>Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 2:37 AM
>To: martin.chapman@oracle.com
>Cc: bpel4people@lists.oasis-open.org; mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
>Subject: RE: [bpel4people] Issues Process
>
>
>A background question for Martin:
>
>The process (as outlined in SCA TC Proposed Issues 
>Processv3.ppt) looks to be quite reasonable and of a standard 
>design (a good thing!)
>
>That being the case why was JIRA chosen, and in particular 
>chosen over Bugzilla? Like Luc I'm not familiar with JIRA.
>
>Regards, Dave Ings,
>Emerging Software Standards
>Email: ings@ca.ibm.com
>Yahoo Messenger: dave_ings
>
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>  From:       "Mary McRae" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>         
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>  To:         "'Luc Clement'" 
><luc.clement@active-endpoints.com>, "'Martin Chapman'" 
><martin.chapman@oracle.com>,  
>              <bpel4people@lists.oasis-open.org>               
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>  Date:       2008/03/05 08:23 PM                              
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>  Subject:    RE: [bpel4people] Issues Process                 
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>I was hoping we weren't going to have this discussion until 
>the next meeting, but here's a couple of pointers in the meantime.
>
>1. A blog post in which I describe the methods used by the 
>vast majority of OASIS Technical Committees for issues 
>tracking: 
>http://oasistcadmin.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/you-have-an-issue-
>with-that/
>
>2. The rules governing resources that can be used by Technical 
>Committees to conduct their work are contained in Section 2.8 
>of the TC Process: 
>http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process-2008-02-05.php#visibility
>
>" The official copies of all resources of the TC and its 
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>Regards,
>
>Mary
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>Mary P McRae
>Manager of TC Administration, OASIS
>email: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
>web: www.oasis-open.org
>phone: 603.232.9090
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Luc Clement [mailto:luc.clement@active-endpoints.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 7:46 PM
>> To: 'Martin Chapman'; bpel4people@lists.oasis-open.org
>> Subject: RE: [bpel4people] Issues Process
>>
>> I'm not familiar with JIRA but from what I can surmise the process
>proposed
>> is workable and proven. Let's adopt. What's required to get an 
>> instance hosted for our use?
>>
>> Luc Clément
>> Active Endpoints, Inc
>> +1.978.793.2162  | luc.clement@active-endpoints.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Martin Chapman [mailto:martin.chapman@oracle.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 13:35
>> To: bpel4people@lists.oasis-open.org
>> Subject: [bpel4people] Issues Process
>>
>> One of the first things we need to do as a TC is to agree a process 
>> for raising, tracking, resolving, and closing issues we have against 
>> our specifications.
>>
>> Recently, several TCs under the OpenCSA Member Section adopted an  
>> Issues Process, which leveraged experience from past TCs. I have 
>> attached their process to this email and I suggest this TC 
>review this 
>> process with a view to adopting it.
>>
>> There are two aspects that we need to consider:
>>            1. What are the issue states and how do you transition 
>> between states
>>            2. What tools are we going to use to support this process.
>>
>> I hope we can put this on the agenda for the next TC meeting.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>   Martin. 
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> Martin Chapman
>> Consulting Member of Technical Staff
>> Oracle
>> P: +353 87 687 6654
>> e: martin.chapman@oracle.com
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