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Subject: RE: [chairs] RE: [members] OASIS member review of proposed revision of TC Process
Can we have confirmation from the source, please? Does this change just mean we now have 3 categories of members? 1. Voting TC member (unchanged) 2. Non-voting TC member (new name for Observer) 3. Observer (new category - can do nothing but watch) If that's the sole effect of the change (oh, and during the change all current Observers get upgraded to non-voting TC member), then I have no real problem with it. If, on the other hand, all the current Observers get down-graded to new Observers, then I consider this a big inconvenience. Tony Rogers tony.rogers@ca.com Co-chair UDDI TC -----Original Message----- From: Deleys Brandman [mailto:dbrandman@commerce.net] Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 10:05 To: Newcomer, Eric; Eduardo Gutentag; Philpott, Robert Cc: karl.best@oasis-open.org; chairs@lists.oasis-open.org; security-services@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: [chairs] RE: [members] OASIS member review of proposed revision of TC Process I had the same concerns as Eric, the current input from observers is important. Will there be a mechanism to proactively make the observers non-voting members, unless they decline? -----Original Message----- From: Newcomer, Eric [mailto:Eric.Newcomer@iona.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 4:57 PM To: Eduardo Gutentag; Philpott, Robert Cc: karl.best@oasis-open.org; chairs@lists.oasis-open.org; security-services@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: [chairs] RE: [members] OASIS member review of proposed revision of TC Process Eduardo, Do you mean that the new process doesn't change the ability of anyone to join a TC and participate as a non-voting member? So the proposed change is simply a renaming of the type of member, not the elimination of a membership category? Thanks, Eric -----Original Message----- From: Eduardo Gutentag [mailto:Eduardo.Gutentag@Sun.COM] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 7:26 PM To: Philpott, Robert Cc: karl.best@oasis-open.org; chairs@lists.oasis-open.org; security-services@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [chairs] RE: [members] OASIS member review of proposed revision of TC Process But Rob, if you read the new process carefully, you will discover that you can be a TC member without being a voting member (that is, you can be a non-voting TC member without having to meet attendance criteria), thus being able to contribute to your heart's content as current Observers do. On 10/12/2004 03:25 PM, Philpott, Robert wrote: > I would like to express serious concerns with the proposed change to the > TC process that means that TC observers would no longer be able to post > to the TC's mailing list. > > From the current process: "An Observer may participate in TC discussions > and post email messages to the TC list, but may not vote and does not > need to maintain attendance." > > From the proposed process: "Observer" (or "TC Observer") is an Eligible > Person who is subscribed to the TC email list, and may attend TC > meetings, but is not allowed to participate in TC email list > discussions, participate or speak in TC meetings, or make Contributions > to the TC. The process for becoming an Observer is defined in the > section "TC Membership and Participation". > > I STRONGLY disagree with making this change. The SSTC has over 260 > members, of which 40-50 are active voting members. However, our TC > regularly receives valuable input on email discussion topics from > members that don't have currently active voting status. These postings > are from folks such as those in other TC's that monitor our list because > those TC's have some dependency on ours. Requiring folks to find some > other mechanism to provide their input simply throws up barriers in > front of them and will in all likelihood result in us not receiving that > input at all. > > The input from these members is very important to us. I believe this to > be a bad change of policy that goes against the open, free exchange of > ideas that we rely on. > > Rob Philpott > Senior Consulting Engineer > RSA Security Inc. > Tel: 781-515-7115 > Mobile: 617-510-0893 > Fax: 781-515-7020 > mailto:rphilpott@rsasecurity.com > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Karl F. Best [mailto:karl.best@oasis-open.org] >>Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 10:10 AM >>To: members >>Subject: [members] OASIS member review of proposed revision of TC > > Process > >>OASIS members: >> >>You're aware that the OASIS Board of Directors has been working on a >>revision of the OASIS IPR Policy, and you have had an opportunity to >>give feedback on that proposed revision. >> >>The Board has also been working on a revision of the OASIS TC Process, >>the document that governs the creation and operation of TCs at OASIS, >>and the advancement and approval of the work they do. This revision >>includes changes suggested by TC chairs, the Technical Advisory Board >>(TAB), and other members. It also includes changes required to support >>the new IPR Policy; because these two documents rely on each other > > they > >>must be revised, approved, and become effective at the same time. >> >>The Board has approved an OASIS member review of the revised Process; >>this review will start today and go until 10 November. A draft of the >>revised TC Process document approved for member review by the Board is >>found at >>http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/members- >>only/download.php/9623/TC%20Process%2020041007.pdf. >> >> >>A document summarizing the changes from the current Process is at >>http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/members- >>only/download.php/9621/Process%20revision%20summary.pdf >> >>Please send your comments in regards to these proposed changes to >>tcproc-member-review@lists.oasis-open.org by 10 November, so that the >>Board can consider your comments, make changes to this draft, and have >>the Process document ready to be effective at the same time as the new >>IPR Policy. >> >>-Karl >> >>================================================================= >>Karl F. Best >>Vice President, OASIS >>office +1 978.667.5115 x206 mobile +1 978.761.1648 >>karl.best@oasis-open.org http://www.oasis-open.org >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________________________ >>This email list is used solely by OASIS for official consortium >>communications. Opt-out requests may be sent to >>member_services@oasis-open.org, however, all members are strongly >>encouraged to maintain a subscription to this list. -- Eduardo Gutentag | e-mail: eduardo.gutentag@Sun.COM Web Technologies and Standards | Phone: +1 510 550 4616 (internal x31442) Sun Microsystems Inc. | W3C AC Rep / W3C AB / OASIS BoD
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