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Subject: Re: [chairs] RE: [members] OASIS member review of proposed revision ofTC Process
Any OASIS member will be able to join a TC. A TC member will have read-write privileges in the list. A TC member can request to become a voting member, in which case, and in which case only, the TC member will have to meet attendance criteria in order to continue being a voting member. (IOW, if the attendace criteria are not met the member reverts to general non-voting status, without leaving the TC). All TC members will be subject to the IPR Policy as it applies to the TC's mode. Any OASIS member can become a TC Observer. Such Observer will have only read privileges, and no obligations under the IPR Policy as it applies to the TC's mode. Because becoming a TC member now has clear IPR implications and obligations, it would be a bad idea to convert people automatically from observers to members. This must be done in a proactive manner, and with the approval, in the case of organizational members, of the organization's representative. (In that sense [and in that sense only] this is similar to accepted policy in other organizations, e.g. W3C) We really need an FAQ. I thought there was one already out for review, but obviously I was wrong... On 10/12/2004 04:56 PM, Newcomer, Eric wrote: > Eduardo, > > Do you mean that the new process doesn't change the ability of anyone to join a TC and participate as a non-voting member? So the proposed change is simply a renaming of the type of member, not the elimination of a membership category? > > Thanks, > > Eric > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eduardo Gutentag [mailto:Eduardo.Gutentag@Sun.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 7:26 PM > To: Philpott, Robert > Cc: karl.best@oasis-open.org; chairs@lists.oasis-open.org; > security-services@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: Re: [chairs] RE: [members] OASIS member review of proposed > revision of TC Process > > > But Rob, if you read the new process carefully, you will discover that > you can be a TC member without being a voting member (that is, you can > be a non-voting TC member without having to meet attendance criteria), > thus being able to contribute to your heart's content as current Observers > do. > > > On 10/12/2004 03:25 PM, Philpott, Robert wrote: > >>I would like to express serious concerns with the proposed change to the >>TC process that means that TC observers would no longer be able to post >>to the TC's mailing list. >> >>From the current process: "An Observer may participate in TC discussions >>and post email messages to the TC list, but may not vote and does not >>need to maintain attendance." >> >>From the proposed process: "Observer" (or "TC Observer") is an Eligible >>Person who is subscribed to the TC email list, and may attend TC >>meetings, but is not allowed to participate in TC email list >>discussions, participate or speak in TC meetings, or make Contributions >>to the TC. The process for becoming an Observer is defined in the >>section "TC Membership and Participation". >> >>I STRONGLY disagree with making this change. The SSTC has over 260 >>members, of which 40-50 are active voting members. However, our TC >>regularly receives valuable input on email discussion topics from >>members that don't have currently active voting status. These postings >>are from folks such as those in other TC's that monitor our list because >>those TC's have some dependency on ours. Requiring folks to find some >>other mechanism to provide their input simply throws up barriers in >>front of them and will in all likelihood result in us not receiving that >>input at all. >> >>The input from these members is very important to us. I believe this to >>be a bad change of policy that goes against the open, free exchange of >>ideas that we rely on. >> >>Rob Philpott >>Senior Consulting Engineer >>RSA Security Inc. >>Tel: 781-515-7115 >>Mobile: 617-510-0893 >>Fax: 781-515-7020 >>mailto:rphilpott@rsasecurity.com >> >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Karl F. Best [mailto:karl.best@oasis-open.org] >>>Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 10:10 AM >>>To: members >>>Subject: [members] OASIS member review of proposed revision of TC >> >>Process >> >> >>>OASIS members: >>> >>>You're aware that the OASIS Board of Directors has been working on a >>>revision of the OASIS IPR Policy, and you have had an opportunity to >>>give feedback on that proposed revision. >>> >>>The Board has also been working on a revision of the OASIS TC Process, >>>the document that governs the creation and operation of TCs at OASIS, >>>and the advancement and approval of the work they do. This revision >>>includes changes suggested by TC chairs, the Technical Advisory Board >>>(TAB), and other members. It also includes changes required to support >>>the new IPR Policy; because these two documents rely on each other >> >>they >> >> >>>must be revised, approved, and become effective at the same time. >>> >>>The Board has approved an OASIS member review of the revised Process; >>>this review will start today and go until 10 November. A draft of the >>>revised TC Process document approved for member review by the Board is >>>found at >>>http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/members- >>>only/download.php/9623/TC%20Process%2020041007.pdf. >>> >>> >>>A document summarizing the changes from the current Process is at >>>http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/members- >>>only/download.php/9621/Process%20revision%20summary.pdf >>> >>>Please send your comments in regards to these proposed changes to >>>tcproc-member-review@lists.oasis-open.org by 10 November, so that the >>>Board can consider your comments, make changes to this draft, and have >>>the Process document ready to be effective at the same time as the new >>>IPR Policy. >>> >>>-Karl >>> >>>================================================================= >>>Karl F. Best >>>Vice President, OASIS >>>office +1 978.667.5115 x206 mobile +1 978.761.1648 >>>karl.best@oasis-open.org http://www.oasis-open.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________________________ >>>This email list is used solely by OASIS for official consortium >>>communications. Opt-out requests may be sent to >>>member_services@oasis-open.org, however, all members are strongly >>>encouraged to maintain a subscription to this list. > > -- Eduardo Gutentag | e-mail: eduardo.gutentag@Sun.COM Web Technologies and Standards | Phone: +1 510 550 4616 (internal x31442) Sun Microsystems Inc. | W3C AC Rep / W3C AB / OASIS BoD
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