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Subject: Re: [cloudauthz] Meeting Minutes of 2 February 2013
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Subject: [cloudauthz] Meeting Minutes of 2 February 2013
Roll call by Anil
- Everyone on the chat room is present on the call.
Agenda Review
- No objection to proposed agenda
Meeting Minutes Approval
- Meeting minutes taken by Shaheen
- Meeting minutes approval from 21 JAN 2013 & 7 JAN 2013
o Radu moved the motion
o Mark seconded the motion
o No objections
o Minutes approved
Use case discussion
- Radu Marian’s submission
o There is an urgency for the ontology
o Use case have only the title; will provide details later
o Use case are based on business driver which is derived from business requirements
o This is the core business driver which may need more discussion for cloud
o Business facilitation
§ Taken from IM point of view based on a paper by Delloitte (2007)
§ Improve user experience, collaboration, time to market, integration
§ To improve collaborate; the business have to leverage data quality and process quality
· identify process roles and entitlements
· IM process should be reference-able – an example would be “Get me all the entitlements that the user has”.
o Anil – this document looks good. Requires some improvement on how it can be organized.
o Radu – it cannot be done hierarchically because certain use cases have many to many relationships.
o Anil – we may able to leverage ID Cloud model. We may have to come up with a proper template so that information can be captured in a better way. This would help editors
o Anil – we can dedicate meetings to go over the submissions in details. Since these are early days, we will have 5 minutes for each submission.
- Anil Saldhana’s submission
o Document was based on the charter discussion
o Main use case is listed at the bottom of the document
o Anil went over the definitions which is based on XACML definition
o Shaheen suggested providing links to XACML definition document
o Anil explained the process to enforcement checks using PEP. Anil proposes cloud entitlement point to define a collection of cloud entitlements.
o Radu asked more explanation and Anil gave an analogy of Unix file permissions
o Radu – basically Anil is proposing run time authorization and entitlement assignment
o Anil – the first is already solved but the latter needs further development
o Radu – you basically presume there will be entitlement API
o Anil – what we didn’t agree was is semantics of the entititlement. It would be good to come up with a message format
o Radu – on the second diagram, we will be starting from scratch. Are there any standards that we can leverage? The first one is already addressed by XACML.
o Anil – so far no real efforts yet
o Radu – UML representation of JASON may help; will upload the document. Radu gave a brief walkthrough of the document.
o No further comments
Informal Calls on Entitlement
- Radu sent out meeting invitation for the meeting
- You may also use mailing list for the discussion
- Radu already got 3 responses for the participation
User story submission
- Deadline is end of February 2013
Other business
- Cloud Connect Santa Clara - April 2013
o (Potential F2F, Speaking opportunities at OASIS event)
o Abbie may be attending and may be able to speak on the TC
Meeting adjourned
Chat transcript at http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/OASIS-cloudauthz
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AnilSaldhana(RedHat): Agenda
1. Roll Call, Agenda Review and Minute Taker Nomination.
2. Approval of Meeting Minutes
21 Jan 2013 : https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/cloudauthz/201302/msg00009.html
7 Jan 2013 : https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/cloudauthz/201301/msg00007.html
3. Use Cases and Definitions Discussion
(5 minutes to each member to discuss their submission. Detailed discussion in subsequent meetings)
- Michael Poulin's Submissions
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/48079/Business%20Cases%20for%20%20CloudAuthZ.docx
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/47978/Some%20Ideas%20about%20Approach%20to%20Cloud%20Authentication.pptx
Radu Marian's Submissions
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=48107&wg_abbrev=cloudauthz
Anil Saldhana's Submissions
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=48120&wg_abbrev=cloudauthz
4. Schedule for Informal Calls on Entitlements [Radu]
5. Other Business
- Cloud Connect Santa Clara - April 2013
(Potential F2F, Speaking opportunities at OASIS event)
5. Adjourn
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anonymous morphed into Chris Hyzer (Internet2)
Ken Stavinoha (Cisco): Hi Anil, I am on the phone but cannot seem to get off of mute... I can hear everyone fine.
AnilSaldhana(RedHat): *6 #6
AnilSaldhana(RedHat): Shaheen is the minute taker
AnilSaldhana(RedHat): meeting minutes are approved.
AnilSaldhana(RedHat): Radu's PNG: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/48108/entitlement.ontology.png
Partipants:
AnilSaldhana(RedHat)
Chris Hyzer (Internet2)
Dale Moberg (Axway)
Danny Thorpe (Dell)
Felix Gomez (NEC)
Gines Dolera (NEC)
Hernan Matute (Cyphercor)
Ken Stavinoha (Cisco)
Mohammad Jafari (ESC)
Radu (Bank of America)
Shaheen Abdul Jabbar (JPMC)
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