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Subject: OASIS DITA TC Minutes for 28 June 2011
OASIS DITA TC Minutes for 28 June 2011 8:00-8:05 PT Roll call o Regrets: None STANDING BUSINESS: Approve minutes from previous business meeting: o http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201106/msg00036.html (Bruce Nevin, 21 June 2011) Moved by Don, seconded by Kris, approved by acclamation. Subcommittee/liaison reports: o OASIS DITA Technical Communication Subcommittee (28 June 2011) > JoAnn: Have been talking about a proposal for a troubleshooting topic and its relation to an existing IBM specialization. Also want to add a troubleshooting element to <taskbody> in 1.3. One of the most interesting things is how this fits in the metamodel that the BusDocs SC has been working on. As a subcommittee, can we propose a specialization? If we don't want that to become part of the primary DITA spec, can we propose a TC sub-specification? We think it's probably not a good idea for this to be part of the primary specification. Can the TC take up the notion of separate sub-specifications? Have other subcommittees run into these questions? We felt that the Learning & Training part of the spec should have been separate. > Michael: the original proposal was to have separate spec documents. The challenge was that documentation of just the specialized elements is not very useful; but if you republish the core specification you're duplicating content. Maybe we have to come to grips with cross-document linking. > DocBook does this. The DocBook publishing spec is a simpler case, but OASIS was OK with it. > Can we do a TechComm specification, approved by the TC as part of the DITA standard, as an add-on to DITA 1.2, not 1.3? Michael: Yes. One option: leave it as a working draft in perpetuity. Another, get it approved as an additional standard, as a valid peer document to the DITA 1.2 spec. The challenge there is the effort of getting the 15% vote for the standard. If you're voting on just a part of the whole, only those interested in that part will be motivated to vote. > We should make an agenda item about how SCs can contribute portions of the spec. Robert has added the proposed <troubleshooting> element for <taskbody> to the DITA 1.3 list. > Next week, the DITA Adoption TC will report. (The Pharma SC is inactive at present.) Action Items: o Review open items: http://www.oasis- open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dita/members/action_items.php Owners of items are encouraged to review the list and close items assigned to them. Current owners are: Robert Anderson, Thilo Buchholtz, Stan Doherty, Kris Eberlein, Eliot Kimber, and Chris Kravogel. BUSINESS: 1. ITEM: Triage of DITA complexity list and potential solutions * Wiki page: "What do people (really) mean when they say "DITA is too complex"? * NEW: Stan's summary: http://lists.oasis- open.org/archives/dita/201106/msg00027.html >No discussion. 2. ITEM: Triage of DITA_1.3_Proposals list * Wiki page: DITA_1.3_Proposals o note Yeo/Kimber housekeeping matters 13004 and 13005 are now combined. 13006 "Future post DITA 1.2 work from Issue #12007: Item 4: Consider providing a mechanism that would allow map authors to override references in maps and topics even if references in the maps and topics were not authored using key references or with indirect referencing in mind." >This is to facilitate reuse in different contexts without modification of the topic (which triggers re-translation). It is related to addressing, but not necessarily key-based addressing. Adding a parallel to keys raises complexity concerns. It might be best to leave this as a task for a CMS to handle. But many features that DITA now provides had to be handled by content management systems before DITA provided a standard means. We decided to defer this. 13007 "Consider adding new values for @toc beyond {"yes" | "no"}: {"alway" | "never"} or perhaps {"all" | "none") to provide greater control over what can be overridden by what." >The issue arises because toc cascades. You could say 'never' and the nested map couldn't turn it back on. What does 'yes' mean in the context of 'no'? How should it be implemented? People may want to drop something from the TOC but retain everything else below it. We certainly need to clarify the language. If no doesn't mean never, then we need never, and if yes doesn't mean always, we need something there. (There seems to be some similarity in 13059. Might there be a general approach to how cascading works for a class of attributes. TOC is in effect a conditional processing attribute, in respect to the output.) Robert will write a proposal and write up how the interactions work, and is now the owner of this item. 13008 "Consider adding @appid as a new optional CDATA attribute on <resourceid> and making the existing @id optional." > The meaning of @id is overloaded in <resourceid>. This value is unrelated to DITA IDs in the @id attribute. The change is trivial. It might better be considered a bug (which has been present from DITA 1.0, showing that we should never pre-implement requirements). We decided this should be included. 1309 "Keyref not sufficient for general indirection. keyref mechanism provides no way to do renaming or splitting/joining of elements below the topic level." > In 1.2, Eliot proposed a general indirection mechanism. In view of complexity issues, he is now happy to defer this. For completeness, this is a big hole. Does that outweigh the complexity? Are there enough users who find it a serious limiting factor? It seems best to make this part of a deeper re-architecting. However, Chris is interested in taking it over, in the simplified description that he would like to be able to bind an element to a key definition. This may be related to 13022. Want to be able to refer indirectly to an element id as well as a topic id. The challenge is at a design level. Until now, maps cannot refer to anything below the topic level. We need to state the requirement more clearly as allowing redirection of links to subtopic elements. This will be a new row in the table. Then 1309 will be deferred. We will resume with item #1310 next week. 8:50-8:55 PT Announcements/Opens 8:55 PT Adjourn
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