Re: [docbook-apps] Non-validating Saxon

["Bob Stayton" <bobs@sagehill.net>]

Since you are using a catalog, I would suggest turning on catalog debugging 
and seeing what is happening. Set the verbosity in the 
CatalogManager.properties file to 3 or 4 and see if you can see where it is 
going wrong.

Bob Stayton
Sagehill Enterprises
DocBook Consulting
bobs@sagehill.net


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <pps@dlsi.ua.es>
To: <docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Non-validating Saxon


Thank you Bob for your response.

- I'm using Saxon 6.5.5 "as-it-is". I mean, I dind't chnge the XML parser.
- Yes, I'm using the Apache resolver classes.
- No, I haven't modified any DTD.

The resolver seems to do its jobs OK.

It seems like:

- The XML catalog/resolver is rewriting URIs (PUBLIC or SYSTEM) OK.
BUT onces the parsing process "branches" to a new DTD reference, it cannot 
find
next (3rd) "local" references, and the parser is trying to find that module 
in
the folder of the original DTD.

Example:

1) C:/lib/website/schema/website-full.dtd : this is the parsing starting 
point.

2) website-full.dtd references &docbook.dtd; entity successfully resolved 
at
(let say):
C:/lib/docbook/dtd/docbook.dtd

3) docbook.dtd makes a local reference to an entity "x.mod" (present in the 
same
folder as "docbook.dtd" by distribution). Then Saxon issues an error 
telling
something like it cannot access the file: "C:/lib/website/schema/x.mod !!!

I would like to know if this is a catalog definition problem (in which case 
I
will re-build all the catalog hierarchy), or if it is something different.

NOTE: if I prevent from resolving the reference in the step 2), that is to 
say,
allowing saxon fetch the reference externally, it works flawlessly.

Tahnk you very much in advance for your help.

Pedro


---- Mensaje Original ----

> Hi Pedro,
> While it may seem like Saxon is validating, it actually is not validating 
> your
elements against the DTD.  All XML parsers must *read* the DTD to find
declarations of entities that might be used in the document, so that it can
substitute the text for any entity references it finds.  So if there is 
DOCTYPE
reference to a DTD, the parser must be able to read the DTD.  There is no 
way to
tell  a parser to not look in the DTD if it finds a reference to one.  The
entity processing doesn't add much to the processing time unless the DTD is
accessed over the net instead of locally.
>
> I think you should concentrate on fixing the DTD references.  Some more
details would help.  Are you using an XML catalog and resolver classes? 
Xerces
parser?  Have you modified the DTD files or locations?
>
> Bob Stayton
> Sagehill Enterprises
> DocBook Consulting
> bobs@sagehill.net
>
>
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Pedro Pastor
>   To: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org
>   Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:28 PM
>   Subject: [docbook-apps] Non-validating Saxon
>
>
>   How can I tell Saxon 6.5.5 not to validate the XML files he is 
> XSLT-processing?
>
>
>
>   In addition to the extra execution time, I'm having some mess with 
> *.mod
references. For example, I'm using the website.dtd and Saxon fails at 
finding
the modules this dtd includes (extensions.mod for example). This is very 
strange
as long as the ENTITY PUBLIC reference is pointing locally to 
"extensions.mod"
(present in the same directory as website-full). If I insert a public 
http-path
and add this new entry in the catalog.xml it works.
>
>   (Note: I=92m using Windows XP Pro=94 ;-).
>
>
>
>   Regards,
>
>
>
>   Pedro
>
>
>
>
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