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Subject: Re: [ebsoa] Groups - Provisional Charter (Draft) (NEW-Charter-v0dot1_DRAFT.doc) uploaded
To: ebSOA TC I have two concerns about the plans articulated in this document and the informal notes from the last ebSOA TC meeting. I am in Korea this week, so attendance at your December 8th meeting will be difficult (as it will occur at 3 am for me). In any case, I ask the TC to take a slightly slower path towards any fundamental changes to your deliverables and objectives. First, I have a purely rules-based concern about how to execute the proposed change. As you know, changes to the scope of a TC that significantly change its field of operations generally are prohibited under our TC Process. (This is not because it' a bad idea, but because observers and members rely on the charter for each TC to encapsulate its topic.) A TC *may* significantly change direction, but if it expands its scope, we ask it to do so by closing and re-opening. You can see several successful examples of this on our site, including the evolution of the "Management Protocol" TC into the very successful (but more broadly scoped) WSDM TC. See http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/mgmtprotocol/200302/msg00001.html. Thus, if the TC wishes to execute on the strategy being considered, I suggest that the TC not vote to close *until* the new TC charter is up and running (as with WSDM). I would be pleased to discuss this further with the TC at a meeting. Second, and more significantly, I am concerned that there are some members who wish to pursue the original deliverables of the current ebSOA TC charter. User and industry expectations encouraged around the ebSOA TC might be significantly deflated, if the existing TC seems to revert its attention wholly to architectures, and deprecate its planned examination of ebXML<>web service interoperability. That latter project is in some demand. Just today I attended in Korea a remarkable and rather advanced presentation on hybrid ebXML/WS methods. Thus, I would like to confirm that the part of the community interested in those deliverables is able to continue them, if they wish. It would be unfortunate if the subtle changes in work plans being considered were misread, from the outside, as a withdrawal from some of the goals strongly articulated by this TC's proposers during the launch 8 months ago. I have briefly discussed this with Duane and it's my understanding that he is amenable to the following approach -- Leave the present TC in operation over the next ~6 weeks. (45 days is the incubation period for a new TC.) -- Complete the "rechartering" project as a drafting exercise, taking the time for consensus and broader community input if there is interest. (I am inclined to suggest that a discussion list immediately be requested, to provide a separate channel for that, which would allow nonmembers to surveill and express interest.) -- We will chat with members about possible continuation of the existing TC with a slightly different membership and additional leadership, as desirable, to fulfill some of the original objectives, and populate that option during the same 4-6 week period. In this manner we could support all of the expectations of our heterogenous community, and I will formally suggest this when we are able to meet. Best regards JBC At 02:46 PM 12/7/2004, dnickull@adobe.com wrote: >The document named Provisional Charter (Draft) >(NEW-Charter-v0dot1_DRAFT.doc) has been submitted by Duane Nickull to the >OASIS Electronic Business Service Oriented Architecture (ebSOA) TC >document repository. Document Description: Draft of potential new charter >for re-chartering group. Download >Document: >http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ebsoa/download.php/10488/NEW-Charter-v0dot1_DRAFT.doc >View Document Details: >http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ebsoa/document.php?document_id=10488 >PLEASE NOTE: If the above links do not work for you, your email >application may be breaking the link into two pieces. You may be able to >copy and paste the entire link address into the address field of your web >browser. -OASIS Open Administration ~ James Bryce Clark ~ Director, Standards Development, OASIS ~ +1 978 667 5115 x 203 central office ~ +1 310 293 6739 mobile
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