[Fwd: Re: [ebxml-bp] BPSS 1.01 XML Schema element referencingwith idand name issue

["Monica J. Martin" <Monica.Martin@Sun.COM>]

>Schlegel: Currently I am (re)implementing a bpss 1.01 XML execution engine and
>have taken the negotiation bpss as my example bpss (no forks, no joins).
>
>I just got suspicious why there are two attributes (once with the name
>and once with the ID) in an element to reference another element. Having
>two attributes to reference or name another element seemed to me like
>having one too much. That was the original issue I had.
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mm1: Sacha, could you please take the Draft Work Item process and the 
list of elements and forward the item with the appropriate text and 
examples to the list? I will open a Work Item given this discussion. 
Thanks to everyone that contributed (good to hear from you Martin!).

Monica

>And according to Martin.Me.Roberts there are reasons for that. I post
>his comment here as that did not go to the list:
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>Sacha,
>        I have not looked at the published schema but I worked on the
>Schema for 1.1.  The version I have follows the BPSS 1.05 form which was
>not to use inherited parts such as BusinessActivity in the schema.
>
>        One of may major concerns about the way 1.1 was handled was that
>no adequate technical review of the schema was done and neither JJ or
>myself ever got asked to change it or as far as I know no comments were
>addressed before publication.
>
>        You point about ID and names is a valid one, which would have
>been addressed in any sensible review.  I was purely following the BPSS
>1.05 method.  What we have found with the use of tools such as
>Bindstudio is that having ID is a real pain as it make editing the
>document out side of the tool almost impossible.  Names are esier for us
>humans to cope with, ID are better for automatic checking.  My respnse
>then is that we should have supported an either one or both option which
>is not possible to express in XSD speak
>
>Martin Roberts 
>xml designer, 
>BT Exact
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