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I believe we need to use these schema techniques with caution.
OAGi found they got mixed results with this feature of Schema
and the support provided by the different parsers - and errors
generated.   We definately do not want to end up with a=20
schema that fails in certain circumstances.

Remind me why we are using this substitution group again - isn't
much more clear in this instance - and we can just provide people
with parameters they can set to control the timetoperform behaviour...?

Thanks, DW.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: martin.me.roberts@bt.com=20
  To: ebxml-bp@lists.oasis-open.org=20
  Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 11:59 AM
  Subject: [ebxml-bp] Late Binding


  Dear all,=20
          I had a discussion with Anders on the Late Binding problem and =
we decided that if we changed the TimeToPerform and associated fields =
from Attributes to Elements.  The reason for this is it will allow the =
use of substitution group style replacement of these fields to allow =
functionDefinition to be used.

          If this is acceptable, may be we should make a wholesale move =
away from attributes to elements throughout.=20

  Martin Roberts
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Martin,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wooowha!&nbsp; We leapt too far here=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I believe we need to use these schema =
techniques=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OAGi found they got mixed results with =
this feature=20
of Schema</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and the support provided by the =
different parsers -=20
and errors</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>generated.&nbsp;&nbsp; We definately do =
not want to=20
end up with a </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>schema that fails in certain=20
circumstances.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Remind me why we are using this =
substitution group=20
again - isn't</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>much more clear in this instance - and =
we can just=20
provide people</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>with parameters they can set to control =
the=20
timetoperform behaviour...?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks, DW.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 08, 2004 =
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  <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear all,</FONT>=20
  <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT face=3DArial =
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  discussion with Anders on the Late Binding problem and we decided that =
if we=20
  changed the TimeToPerform and associated fields from Attributes to=20
  Elements.&nbsp; The reason for this is it will allow the use of =
substitution=20
  group style replacement of these fields to allow functionDefinition to =
be=20
  used.</FONT></P>
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