Re: [ebxml-bp] Clarification - FORK and BusinessTransaction

["Anders W. Tell" <anderst@toolsmiths.se>]

Yunker, John wrote:Message

> We can get into trouble if we break up the atomicy transactions.


The so called businesstranaction is a key element. It is a 'unit of 
shared understanding' in the sense that both partes has the same view 
after its execution. Breaking it into pieces would complicate keeping 
track of the "business/legal semantics".

Altough the name of Business*Transaction* is highly infortunatelly 
because it leads the thoughts to ACID and rollback etc. making a 
business statement whether it is by phone, email, ebMS or webservices 
are all equal and can very seldom be retracted. So thinking IT ACID 
semantics most if the time leads to the wrong conclusions.

I talked today to a retired Judge specialized in eCommerce IT law and 
its very much clear that what IT often talk about is far from the legal 
doscussion.
An example: I national laws there are rules for when a document has 
reached a government organization, these rules vay from country to 
country but interesting enough many rules state a document has reached 
the organization when the envelope containing the document has beed 
handed over to the "janitor". This means that the content, format etc 
has NOT been check, validated etc. One doesnt even know the envelope 
contains a document or not.
How does this example relate to ebXML, well it could mean that ebMS 
Acknowledgement has a meaning which BPSS partially deals with.

/anders

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