Re: [ebxml-bp] [Fwd: [ebxml-msg] Status of MSH configuration by CPA and MSH API]

["David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info>]

FYI - Just a note here for people wanting to model CPP / CPA -
the VisualScript has a binary collaboration model for this
built-in - just select 'Create New' and choose the CPA model.

I've been considering how to upgrade this for the new BPSS V2 -
and I'll probably work on this in a few weeks time once we
have that BPSS model finished.

Lots of possible new goodies - using the BPSS and CPA models
in tandem - so creating a CPA can draw from the BPSS it is
referencing - particularly for the Sends / Receives transaction
details...

DW

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Martin Sachs" <msachs@cyclonecommerce.com>
To: "Steve Capell" <steve.capell@redwahoo.com>
Cc: "'Monica J. Martin'" <Monica.Martin@Sun.COM>; "'ebXML BP'"
<ebxml-bp@lists.oasis-open.org>; "ebxml-cppa"
<ebxml-cppa@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 10:57 AM
Subject: RE: [ebxml-bp] [Fwd: [ebxml-msg] Status of MSH configuration by CPA
and MSH API]


> Steve,
>
> Does the CPP play a part in your process of generating a partner-specific
> deployment CPA? A CPP contains a prospective trading partner's preferences
> and requirements on a CPA.
>
> Regards,
> Marty
>
>
> At 01:55 AM 7/25/2004, Steve Capell wrote:
>
>
> >For my 20c, the automated configuration of an ebXML MSH from a CPA is one
of
> >the key values of the the whole ebXML architecture and so should remain a
> >part of any future specs.  The only little issue is that this
pre-supposes
> >that you have an easy way to get a CPA in the first place.  After some
> >"experiments" we believe that the best route to a CPA is to generate
partner
> >specific deployment CPA's from "abstract" template CPAs that are, in
turn,
> >generated from UMM (FSV) model data.  In this way we are pretty much able
to
> >automate the entire deployment from model data.
> >
> >Steve Capell
> >Red Wahoo Pty Ltd
> >+61 410 437854
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Monica J. Martin [mailto:Monica.Martin@Sun.COM]
> >Sent: Wednesday, 21 July 2004 2:54 AM
> >To: ebXML BP
> >Subject: [ebxml-bp] [Fwd: [ebxml-msg] Status of MSH configuration by CPA
and
> >MSH API]
> >
> >FYI: Questions to ebMS team, good insight Sacha.
> >
> >Sacha Schlegel wrote:
> >
> > >Hi ebXML Messaging Team
> > >
> > >I was wondering what the status of the following two questions are:
> > >
> > >a) Is it implicit that a MSH could/should be configured with a CPA? Do
> > >you push this in the ebMS specification 3.0? Do you have real world
> > >experience how todays MSH's are configured? eg. Hermes from
> > >www.freebxml.org uses a properties.xml file or similar but no CPA.
> > >
> > >b) Will you provide an API of the MSH? Without practical experience I
> > >would think that current ebMS systems communicate straight with the
> > >backend applications. As I am interested in an ebXML Business Service
> > >Interface (BSI) which executes (or monitors) a BPSS I am wondering of a
> > >standardiesd interface between BSI and MSH. In the sense that I could
> > >easily exchange an MSH. Any attempts to specify this in version 3.0?
> > >
> > >Kind regards
> > >
> > >Sacha Schlegel
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
> *************************************
> Martin Sachs
> standards architect
> Cyclone Commerce
> msachs@cyclonecommerce.com
>
>
>