RE: [egov-services] FW: EGov services sub-committee charter as ofFebruary 10, 2003

[John.Borras@e-Envoy.gsi.gov.uk]

Diane
Very thought provoking.  I think we in the SC and TC have a responsibility to provide governments with the foundation for this new world, and certainly here in UK our Ministers are setting big expectations about improving the lives of citizens, businesses and the economy through the use of new technology.  So let's keep that in our sights please.
John

"Lewis, Diane" <Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov> 18/02/2003 02:21

To:        "'John.Borras@e-Envoy.gsi.gov.uk'" <John.Borras@e-Envoy.gsi.gov.uk>, "'egov-services@lists.oasis-open.org'" <egov-services@lists.oasis-open.org>         cc:                 Subject:        RE: [egov-services] FW: EGov services sub-committee charter as of February 10, 2003

thanks John for your input... agree we should look to the future... an assumed target of e-gov that is based on interoperability of processes and data sharing.

i am reading a book called Smart Mobs.. the next social revolution by Howard Rheingold
a sub title is transforming cultures and communities in the age of instant access... 

i would suggest to you and other members of the services sub-committee that if we do turn to a more futuristic vision of eGov services then each of us must shed our preconceptions... i have found in limited discussion with egov TC members and reading the TC chat to date that the existing nation/state/paper-based processes and if you will "legacy" of 20th Century IT paradigms still predominant the OASIS TC discussions...

so to follow-up on your input that we need to turn to a 21st Century frame of reference... i provide some factoids.... i have just learned in my reading to initiate an active and imaginative discussion  about charter content...

"Industry analyst Gartner Consulting predicts that 40 percent of adults and 75 percent of teenagers will use wearable computing devices by 2010.

Location aware services have been growing since ... 1999 providing reaqltime maps and directions on handheld devices .. The US government has ordered all telephones sold in the US to become location-aware by 2005, for the prupose of improving emergency services. 

Cities are places of massive information flows, networks, and conduits and myriad transitory informatoin exchanges.  Enthusiasts of digital cities are trying to understand the dynamics of computationally pervasive cities populated by movile communicators in order to consciously design architectures that promote conviviality as well as safety and convenience.

Do e-governments deliver new kinds of vital data that people put to use quickly is that the actual service e-governments will provide through the first half of the 21st Century??"  the   state of California has created the Center for Information Technology Research in the Interest of Society (CITRIS) to deisn pervasive, secure , energy-efficient, and diaster-proof information systems, to deliver new kinds of vital information.."

it seems so far from my reading that the forms of government as we understand them and implement them in today's world will continue to evolve into interconnected networks of culture and shared information resulting in social groupings that cannot be imagined today... or can they....?   the future services and data mappings to underpin these interconnected networks of communication and interaction will be defined as e-government services...    the human mark-up language specification is one example of a 21st century standard.... it will reorganize social interaction.... what type of governance mechanism(s) are part of that social interaction.. need to be determined....    

i hope by sharing my "tomorrow's world" thoughts... with the sub-committee each of us will sit back and reflect on all the possibilities and the opportunity we have as a "unit" to begin shaping that tomorrow... today...   diane




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Diane

Sorry I missed your first teleconference on this so am late into the 
debate.

Purpose choice one is closest to my view on the role of the SC but I 
believe we should not only be looking at existing services but also at new 
e-services.   There is little merit in governments putting their existing 
paper based systems on-line, they need to thinking differently for 
e-services and hence I would focus on the future services rather than the 
existing ones. 

Second point on the Purpose, I think another role for this SC is to 
identify where technical standards don't fit the bill or don't currently 
exist and seek to correct that situation.  So the mapping function has 
three outcomes, either we can identify an existing standard that fits, or 
one that needs amending, or we need a new one.

Goals choice one must be the one for this SC.  We are a subset of the 
e-Gov TC which was set up to focus on the needs of the public domain. 

I realise this SC is not easy but in many ways it's the key to success of 
the TC so we need to get it clear what we doing and what we are going to 
deliver.   So let's keep talking.

I'm only free on Friday this week for a teleconference.

John





"Lewis, Diane" <Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov>
17/02/2003 14:23

 
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i apologise again for the cancellation of the teleconference call.... 
today 2/17...

i did receive some feedback on the charter options proposed for discussion 
and i would gladly receive any other thoughts via email discussion today 
or during this week.

i would also like feedback as to what day/time would be best to conduct a 
teleconference this month....   i think we are making some progress but 
not at a desired speed... suggestions would be appreciated.... meanwhile 
during this Washington DC snowstorm i will continue to work on proposed 
charter text but can only go so far without your continued feedback and 
ideas.... thanks diane
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John and other members of the committee
i was unable to arrange for the teleconference call as i originally 
hoped...
i received notice from several of you that the date and time was not 
good... sorry i will make another attempt to arrange for the 
conversation... diane

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Diane
Sorry it's a bit late, but I will be able to join in a teleconference 
today. 
John





"Lewis, Diane" <Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov>
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Subject:                 EGov services sub-committee charter as of 
February 10, 2003 

Colleagues..

EGov services sub-committee charter as of February 10, 2003 follows.

Please review and suggest revisions.  I propose that we conduct a 
telephone conference  on Monday February 17th at 9am eastern standard 
time.  Thanks to one of our members we will be able to complete our task 
through telephone conversation.
agenda for phone conference:
--finalize charter
--decide deliverable formats and procedures for document review
--list sources to be used in developing deliverables

Please let me know if you will be able to participate in the phone 
conference on the 17th.  If most members are unable to participate, I will 

suggest another day and time for the telephone conference. 

I will forward the phone information as soon as we confirm a day/time.

Meanwhile please continue our list dialogue.... Thank you!  diane


Purpose choice one: 
The purpose of the eGov Services subcommittee is to identify and map 
existing government services functions and data with technical standards 
from an integrated service delivery perspective.  The resulting mappings 
will show the information or services integrated according to function or 
topic, in addition to agency jurisdiction.

Purpose choice two:
The purpose of the eGov Services subcommittee is to identify domains of 
governmental activity and their associated vocabulary and transform that 
vocabulary into a data specification that will allow governmental 
organizations to share information within a single, national, jurisdiction 

and where the political will exists, allow national authorities to share 
that same information among nations and states.

Goals:  (what do we want to accomplish?)
>Identify common needs regarding standardization of information objectives 

and data elements within the public domain

>Formulate a common methodology to survey public service forms, documents 
and processes (data needs) and identify corresponding public domain 
standards

>Formulate a common methodology for defining common standards for public 
domain data
>Achieve a minimum level of consensus on priorities in order to coordinate 

work done in many different organizations in order to share knowledge as 
well as achievements (data definitions).

Goals:  choice two:

>identify common needs regarding standardization of information objects 
and data elements

>formulate a common methodology regarding analysis of form, documents and 
processes (data needs)

--formulate a common methodology for defining priorities

> Achieve a minimum level of consensus on priorities in order to 
coordinate work done in many different organizations in order to share 
knowledge as well as achievements (data definitions)


List of Deliverables:  (purpose and content of each identified 
deliverable)

>List of public domain registries  Purpose: facilitate adoption of 
XML-based technologies and standards by Governments  (yellow/white pages 
concept)

>Proposed Specification on public domain semantic consistency where the 
Government to Citizen services in the vertical public domain is consistent 

with the horizontal public domain.   For example: public health - FDA 
<illness prevention>  public health -National Security <anthrax 
vaccination>

> Matrix that maps identified Citizen types or experiences to Government 
Service Channels to Government Functions/Agencies/Implementations for 
example:  Citizen-Voter, Citizen-immigrant, Citizen-Veteran, 
Citizen-TaxPayer, Citizen-Postal Service



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