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Subject: RE: [egov-services] FW: EGov services sub-committee charter as ofFebruary 10, 2003
are these Ministers expectations expressed in your draft list of services that you handed out at the Baltimore meeting?
do the two focuses of the delivery of electronic information and the facilitation of government related transactions through information technologies provide the scope of our efforts? anotherwords... data capture technology/standards and data exchanges... rather than knowledge management concepts....
today if weather permits i fly to a meeting where emerging technologies will be discussed... both in the frame of a vertical delivery of services and from a horizontal data sharing perspective....
i guess i am asking you, John, and other egov sub committee members to scope the immediate work of the services committee... if the charter should anticipate the future what is the scope of government services to be studied for the initial subcommittee activity.... ??
i think the charter draft with the proposed changes launches us into an activity of analysis of existing government services and anticipated services then we can determine emerging technologies that might in fact lead to changes in government processes.... what do you all think? i am all for starting with a simple approach .. back to basics and seeing where are study takes us in the coming weeks.... diane
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Subject: RE: [egov-services] FW: EGov services sub-committee charter as
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Diane
Very thought provoking. I think we in the SC and TC have a responsibility
to provide governments with the foundation for this new world, and
certainly here in UK our Ministers are setting big expectations about
improving the lives of citizens, businesses and the economy through the
use of new technology. So let's keep that in our sights please.
John
"Lewis, Diane" <Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov>
18/02/2003 02:21
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Subject: RE: [egov-services] FW: EGov services sub-committee charter as of February
10, 2003
thanks John for your input... agree we should look to the future... an
assumed target of e-gov that is based on interoperability of processes and
data sharing.
i am reading a book called Smart Mobs.. the next social revolution by
Howard Rheingold
a sub title is transforming cultures and communities in the age of instant
access...
i would suggest to you and other members of the services sub-committee
that if we do turn to a more futuristic vision of eGov services then each
of us must shed our preconceptions... i have found in limited discussion
with egov TC members and reading the TC chat to date that the existing
nation/state/paper-based processes and if you will "legacy" of 20th
Century IT paradigms still predominant the OASIS TC discussions...
so to follow-up on your input that we need to turn to a 21st Century frame
of reference... i provide some factoids.... i have just learned in my
reading to initiate an active and imaginative discussion about charter
content...
"Industry analyst Gartner Consulting predicts that 40 percent of adults
and 75 percent of teenagers will use wearable computing devices by 2010.
Location aware services have been growing since ... 1999 providing
reaqltime maps and directions on handheld devices .. The US government has
ordered all telephones sold in the US to become location-aware by 2005,
for the prupose of improving emergency services.
Cities are places of massive information flows, networks, and conduits and
myriad transitory informatoin exchanges. Enthusiasts of digital cities
are trying to understand the dynamics of computationally pervasive cities
populated by movile communicators in order to consciously design
architectures that promote conviviality as well as safety and convenience.
Do e-governments deliver new kinds of vital data that people put to use
quickly is that the actual service e-governments will provide through the
first half of the 21st Century??" the state of California has created
the Center for Information Technology Research in the Interest of Society
(CITRIS) to deisn pervasive, secure , energy-efficient, and diaster-proof
information systems, to deliver new kinds of vital information.."
it seems so far from my reading that the forms of government as we
understand them and implement them in today's world will continue to
evolve into interconnected networks of culture and shared information
resulting in social groupings that cannot be imagined today... or can
they....? the future services and data mappings to underpin these
interconnected networks of communication and interaction will be defined
as e-government services... the human mark-up language specification is
one example of a 21st century standard.... it will reorganize social
interaction.... what type of governance mechanism(s) are part of that
social interaction.. need to be determined....
i hope by sharing my "tomorrow's world" thoughts... with the sub-committee
each of us will sit back and reflect on all the possibilities and the
opportunity we have as a "unit" to begin shaping that tomorrow... today...
diane
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Subject: RE: [egov-services] FW: EGov services sub-committee charter as
of February 10, 2003
Diane
Sorry I missed your first teleconference on this so am late into the
debate.
Purpose choice one is closest to my view on the role of the SC but I
believe we should not only be looking at existing services but also at new
e-services. There is little merit in governments putting their existing
paper based systems on-line, they need to thinking differently for
e-services and hence I would focus on the future services rather than the
existing ones.
Second point on the Purpose, I think another role for this SC is to
identify where technical standards don't fit the bill or don't currently
exist and seek to correct that situation. So the mapping function has
three outcomes, either we can identify an existing standard that fits, or
one that needs amending, or we need a new one.
Goals choice one must be the one for this SC. We are a subset of the
e-Gov TC which was set up to focus on the needs of the public domain.
I realise this SC is not easy but in many ways it's the key to success of
the TC so we need to get it clear what we doing and what we are going to
deliver. So let's keep talking.
I'm only free on Friday this week for a teleconference.
John
"Lewis, Diane" <Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov>
17/02/2003 14:23
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Subject: RE: [egov-services] FW: EGov services
sub-committee charter as of February
10, 2003
i apologise again for the cancellation of the teleconference call....
today 2/17...
i did receive some feedback on the charter options proposed for discussion
and i would gladly receive any other thoughts via email discussion today
or during this week.
i would also like feedback as to what day/time would be best to conduct a
teleconference this month.... i think we are making some progress but
not at a desired speed... suggestions would be appreciated.... meanwhile
during this Washington DC snowstorm i will continue to work on proposed
charter text but can only go so far without your continued feedback and
ideas.... thanks diane
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Subject: RE: [egov-services] FW: EGov services sub-committee charter as
of February 10, 2003
John and other members of the committee
i was unable to arrange for the teleconference call as i originally
hoped...
i received notice from several of you that the date and time was not
good... sorry i will make another attempt to arrange for the
conversation... diane
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Subject: Re: [egov-services] FW: EGov services sub-committee charter as
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Diane
Sorry it's a bit late, but I will be able to join in a teleconference
today.
John
"Lewis, Diane" <Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov>
10/02/2003 13:49
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Subject: [egov-services] FW: EGov services sub-committee
charter as of February 10,
2003
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From: Lewis, Diane
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 8:36 AM
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Subject: EGov services sub-committee charter as of
February 10, 2003
Colleagues..
EGov services sub-committee charter as of February 10, 2003 follows.
Please review and suggest revisions. I propose that we conduct a
telephone conference on Monday February 17th at 9am eastern standard
time. Thanks to one of our members we will be able to complete our task
through telephone conversation.
agenda for phone conference:
--finalize charter
--decide deliverable formats and procedures for document review
--list sources to be used in developing deliverables
Please let me know if you will be able to participate in the phone
conference on the 17th. If most members are unable to participate, I will
suggest another day and time for the telephone conference.
I will forward the phone information as soon as we confirm a day/time.
Meanwhile please continue our list dialogue.... Thank you! diane
Purpose choice one:
The purpose of the eGov Services subcommittee is to identify and map
existing government services functions and data with technical standards
from an integrated service delivery perspective. The resulting mappings
will show the information or services integrated according to function or
topic, in addition to agency jurisdiction.
Purpose choice two:
The purpose of the eGov Services subcommittee is to identify domains of
governmental activity and their associated vocabulary and transform that
vocabulary into a data specification that will allow governmental
organizations to share information within a single, national, jurisdiction
and where the political will exists, allow national authorities to share
that same information among nations and states.
Goals: (what do we want to accomplish?)
>Identify common needs regarding standardization of information objectives
and data elements within the public domain
>Formulate a common methodology to survey public service forms, documents
and processes (data needs) and identify corresponding public domain
standards
>Formulate a common methodology for defining common standards for public
domain data
>Achieve a minimum level of consensus on priorities in order to coordinate
work done in many different organizations in order to share knowledge as
well as achievements (data definitions).
Goals: choice two:
>identify common needs regarding standardization of information objects
and data elements
>formulate a common methodology regarding analysis of form, documents and
processes (data needs)
--formulate a common methodology for defining priorities
> Achieve a minimum level of consensus on priorities in order to
coordinate work done in many different organizations in order to share
knowledge as well as achievements (data definitions)
List of Deliverables: (purpose and content of each identified
deliverable)
>List of public domain registries Purpose: facilitate adoption of
XML-based technologies and standards by Governments (yellow/white pages
concept)
>Proposed Specification on public domain semantic consistency where the
Government to Citizen services in the vertical public domain is consistent
with the horizontal public domain. For example: public health - FDA
<illness prevention> public health -National Security <anthrax
vaccination>
> Matrix that maps identified Citizen types or experiences to Government
Service Channels to Government Functions/Agencies/Implementations for
example: Citizen-Voter, Citizen-immigrant, Citizen-Veteran,
Citizen-TaxPayer, Citizen-Postal Service
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