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Subject: Re: [election-services] Fw: TLV and VoiceXML


John,

The idea here - certainly for the USA - is that this would be in
specially equipped booth for the disabled voter.  They wear
headphones and have a microphone and keyboard.

The voting choices could be indicted via the keyboard;
so - to vote for Tony Blair, speak or type "1", etc.

This means persons outside of the environment should
not be able to eavesdrop on their voting.

As always - we are in a learning process here - I'm convinced
that VoiceXML has enough power and scriptablity to make
the grade - what we need is real ballot examples to be
able to build up a VoiceXML to test that out.

Mark I believe had indicated his willingness to do that.
The cool thing about VoiceXML is that it can stand-up
demo's easily - for people to testout and see live.

Thanks, DW

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Borras, John" <John.Borras@legsb.gov.uk>
To: "David Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info>
Cc: <election-services@lists.oasis-open.org>; "Mark Headd"
<mheadd@diamondtechnologies.com>
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: [election-services] Fw: TLV and VoiceXML



David

Have you thought through the security implications of using VoiceXML in a
voting environment?  My initial reaction is there would be some major
objections, given the general paranoia around e-voting, so we would need to
head those off very early.

John


-----Original Message-----
From: David Webber (XML) [mailto:david@drrw.info]
Sent: 25 April 2005 18:31
To: election-services@lists.oasis-open.org
Cc: Mark Headd
Subject: [election-services] Fw: TLV and VoiceXML


Folks,

Mark Headd here is interested in working with us on
VoiceXML and EML.

This is a really significant opportunity IMHO.

Who out there has some test data from a ballot EML
that they would be interested in sharing with Mark so
that we can setup a possible web demonstration?

If you are in the USA - you can call 1-800-TELLME
for a live production system that shows just how
powerful VoiceXML is.

Thanks, DW

p.s. Mark also sent me this technical article link to VoiceXML
       http://studio.tellme.com/dom/howto/using_data.html
       where we can potentially feed data from an EML XML
       instance via a URL....

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Headd" <mheadd@diamondtechnologies.com>
To: "'David Webber (XML)'" <david@drrw.info>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 11:26 AM
Subject: RE: TLV and VoiceXML


> David:
>
> Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you.  I have reviewed some of
> the materials on your site.  I've also got the ball rolling on our
> membership in OASIS (should be completed soon).
>
> In the interim, I've had a chance to think about your original suggestion
of
> using EML and VoiceXML together.  Recognizing that I've still got some
> things to learn about EML, here is an idea for you to ponder.
>
> Presenting candidate selections to voters:
>
> The latest version of VoiceXML (2.1, currently a last call working draft
> with the W3C) allows for the incorporation of data in XML format into
> VoiceXML dialogues.  There are ways that this can be accomplished in the
> current 2.0 spec (and also using logic on the server side of the
application
> -- more on this below), but it's much easier and cleaner in the new VXML
2.1
> spec.
>
> Using the VoiceXML 2.1 <data></data> element, an XML document can be
> incorporated into a VoiceXML dialog and its structure can be traversed
using
> the ECMAScript binding to the document object model (DOM).  All VoiceXML
> platforms are required to support the ECMAScript standard.
>
> So, if there was information contained in a valid XML document that we
> wanted to present to a caller, say a list of candidates that they could
> choose from, we could use the VXML 2.1 data element and an EML document
with
> a candidate listing to do this.  I think there is an EML schema for
this --
> is this EML Schema 230?
>
> Anyway, it would be a pretty neat (and also fairly easy) way to utilize
EML
> and VoiceXML together as part of a phone-based voting system.
>
> Alternative approaches:
>
> There are at least two (probably more) alternatives to this same
approach --
> using XSLT to reformat EML 230 as VoiceXML, and using server side
technology
> to parse an EML 230 document and use the values contained therein to
> generate the appropriate VoiceXML.
>
> I've done some work with XSLT and VoiceXML -- some examples on my website
at
> http://www.voiceingov.org/tutorials/rss_to_vxml.htm.  It has its issues,
but
> if we wanted to keep this a pure XML standards-based exercise, this could
> work.
>
> Another approach is to process the EML on the server side and then
generate
> VoiceXML based on the contents of the EML file.  This can be done with any
> number of technologies -- ASP, PHP, JSP, ColdFusion, Perl, etc.
>
> I tend to do most of my web development with PHP so this bias usually
spills
> over into my VoiceXML development work.  The latest version of PHP
(version
> 5.x) has excellent XML handling capabilities.  PHP is also very widely
> support and works on Windows and *NIX systems.
>
> Let me know what your thoughts are on this idea, or if you have any other
> feelings about how such a demonstration should be developed.
>
> Talk to you soon.
>
> Mark Headd
> Diamond Technologies, Inc.
>


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