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Subject: RE: [election-services] GAO VVSG response item #1
John,
You are right. I thought originally that the implementation (including
things like OS, database systems etc) was referred to in the text when
talking about royalty-freeness, but after careful re-reading, it is clear
that it is only the public specification (ie standard) itself that has to
be royalty-free, which is quite normal.
So please forget about my previous mail and sorry for the confusion,
Bernard
Bernard Van Acker
IT Architect
IBM Global Services
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"Borras, John"
<John.Borras@legs
b.gov.uk> To
Bernard Van Acker/Belgium/IBM@IBMBE
12/07/2005 15:59 cc
"David Webber \(XML\)"
<david@drrw.info>,
<election-services@lists.oasis-open
.org>
Subject
RE: [election-services] GAO VVSG
response item #1
Bernard
The new OASIS IPR Policy requires us to state what IPR mode we are
operating under. Please see the new policy on the OASIS home page if you
are not familiar with it. We have yet to formally agree our mode within
the TC and I will be addressing that shortly. In my view EML has to be
royalty free as it belongs to no single government or supplier. And
certainly with regard to GAO we should be recommending they use royalty
free standards. So I for one would object to removing the text.
Regards
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Bernard Van Acker [mailto:bernard_vanacker@be.ibm.com]
Sent: 12 July 2005 13:52
To: Borras, John
Cc: David Webber (XML); election-services@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [election-services] GAO VVSG response item #1
David,
A remark concerning the text below, and in particular the words "which are
royalty free and provide open public license terms".
- are you sure this requirement should be made in the context of a
standards body?
- can we exclude with 100% certainty that in a particular situation a
privately licensed code or a good patented concept provides more value for
money, for example by being cheaper?
If there are some doubts, I would rather suggest deleting these words, and
focus on our main area, i.e. standardisation.
Any objections?
Regards,
Bernard
Bernard Van Acker
IT Architect
IBM Global Services
tel ++32 2 225 2939 mobile ++32 496 84 62 60
e-mail: Bernard_Vanacker@be.ibm.com
"Borras, John"
<John.Borras@legs
b.gov.uk> To
"David Webber \(XML\)"
12/07/2005 10:34 <david@drrw.info>
cc
<election-services@lists.oasis-open
.org>
Subject
RE: [election-services] GAO VVSG
response item #1
Happy with the tweaks. The ball is back with you, let me know when you
want further input.
John
-----Original Message-----
From: David Webber (XML) [mailto:david@drrw.info]
Sent: 11 July 2005 21:11
To: Borras, John; Paul Spencer
Cc: election-services@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [election-services] GAO VVSG response item #1
John,
Still needs few more tweaks here - to make sure associated parts remain
together - little disjointed as it was - amended copy below.
Also - I'm intending that we can send this to GAO as part of their request
for comment on their VVSG1 - but there is more to be done on that front, so
this piece should become part of that overall submission. I'll work up
some
thoughts on a possible outline structure for a response that introduces EML
to the GAO, and then suggests where their VVSG1 has opportunities to
leverage EML. We can then see who would like to spend their summer
holidays
typing some of that for us!
DW
<vote_process_terms>
Digital vote records, audit trail control and vote process configuration
and control scripts should be implemented, stored and prepared using
open public specifications which are royalty free and provide open
public license terms. The configuration, rendering and transfer of
such records and voting content should use formats that utilize
content mark-up language techniques such as the widely adopted
Extensible Mark-up Language (XML) syntax along with content
formats such as those specified by the OASIS Election
Mark-up Language (EML) standard. The process definitions
and implementations can then be independently verified and
compatibility certified.
</vote_process_terms>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Borras, John" <John.Borras@legsb.gov.uk>
To: "David Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info>; "Paul Spencer"
<paul.spencer@boynings.co.uk>
Cc: <election-services@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 10:13 AM
Subject: RE: [election-services] GAO VVSG response item #1
I'm not an English major but.....
Here's my take which avoids repetition about open public specs and brings
the royalty free but up front - v important. Any final comments?
<vote_process_terms>
Digital vote records, audit trail control and vote process configuration
and control scripts should be implemented, stored and prepared using open
public specifications, which are royalty free and provide open public
license terms, and process definitions that can be independently verified
and with which compatibility can be certified. The configuration,
rendering
and transfer of such records and voting content should use formats that
utilize content
mark-up language techniques such as the widely adopted Extensible Mark-up
Language (XML) syntax along with formats specified by the OASIS Election
Mark-up Language (EML) standard.
</vote_process_terms>
David - who do I send this to as TC Chair?
John
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