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Subject: RE: [election-services] NEW IPR POLICY


David hi.

OK "which by definition is open" Surely the fact that the EML spec has
been created by a technical committee of an organisation which promotes
e-business standards, and in this particular case by more than one
supplier and individuals would mean that any output from the committee is
open for others to use free of charge. The fact that we are dealing with
an XML syntax means that this code is not hidden and is open to all to see
and download. (And change if they wish). Unless of course any of the
companies and or individuals have already stated that there input is
subject to license restrictions. (John?).

Here I am talking specifically about the output thus far, ie the EML
syntax. Which the use of is open and the source code available to be
downloaded and modified without any license restrictions (See company
caviat above). However I am, as allways, open to be corrected on this.

I am also keeping well away from any future outputs from the committee in
this statement, and maybe before any IPR (if any) policy is chosen we need
to look at what the committee will be going on to do.

IEEE convergance
EML White Papers
Specific supplier product case studies
Application creation
Etc.

and then decide which policy to align to.

Cheers

Simon

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<quote who="David RR Webber \(XML\)">
> Simon,   That is indeed the issue here - you stated - "only the EML syntax
> itself. Which by definition is open."   Exactly what is the meaning of
> "which by definition is open"?   Your understanding of this - compared to
> what the new IPR RF allows may be an issue - it certainly is for the OSI
> license folks.
>
> DW
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [election-services] NEW IPR POLICY
> From: "Simon Bain"
> Date: Tue, November 22, 2005 2:25 am
> To: "David Webber (XML)"
> Cc: joehall@pobox.com, "OASIS EML TC"
>
>
> Hi.
>
> I maybe completely off my tree here. But does not the IPR policy only
> apply to the actual content from the TC?
>
> So here only the EML specification is bound by the policy?
> If this is the case then surely any work outside of the committee by
> individuals or companies is not bound by this license, only the EML syntax
> itself. Which by definition is open.
>
> David?
>
> Cheers
>
> Simon
> --
> Simon Bain
> TENdotZERO
> Mobile: 07793 769 846
> Office: 0845 056 3377 - 44 (0) 1234 359090
> Fax:    44 (0) 208 882 9411
>
>
>> Joe,
>>
>> Mitch Kapor?
>>
>> Wow!
>>
>> I mIssed his key note at the last OASIS bash - no budget to get there...
>>
>> Anyway - I'm sure Mitch can give you more insights.  I've also been on
>> the
>> OSI License mailing list for the past year - and you can certainly learn
>> alot about the OSI process there.
>>
>> The gap analysis between the OSI licenses and the OASIS "RF" license has
>> been pretty well documented.
>>
>> And just now Google turned up this KILLER article this week!!!
>>
>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=1597
>>
>> Wonderfull stuff!!!  Clearly I'm wanting Dave's Gold measure here - not
>> his
>> "off-yellow" colour!!!
>>
>> DW
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joseph Lorenzo Hall"
>> To: "OASIS EML TC"
>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 2:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [election-services] NEW IPR POLICY
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 11/21/05, David RR Webber (XML)  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I can go back and find the specific link to the objections that OSI
>>> > have to the new OASIS RF policy.  Since OSI are probably one of the
>>> > fore most authorities on what Royality Free licensing consitutes -
>>> > we certainly need to understand the issues better before adopting
>>> > something that conflicts with the current OSI license models.
>>>
>>> I would really like to see this, if it's not too much trouble to find.
>>>
>>> OSI buy-in can be a big deal and the director of my sponsoring
>>> organization (Bob Glushko of the CDE) now sits on OASIS' board.
>>> Also, this would be a good thing to bring up in a class I'm TA'ing
>>> this semester on open source (the professors are my advisor, Pam
>>> Samuelson, Steve Weber and Mitch Kapor):
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Joseph Lorenzo Hall
>>> PhD Student
>>> UC Berkeley, School of Information (SIMS)
>>>
>>>
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