Re: [election-services] Fw: EML V6?

David

I like your suggestion as a communication device and if we as a TC can agree the text then no doubt Carol can help us with the presentation and distribution.

I would have thought we can draw some points from our EML White Paper but no doubt there are others that you have in mind should be included in our top ten. Before we get down to the actual text lets knock out some suggestions for the 10 headlines. I'll have a look at the White Paper if you can put forward some headlines that you think are important to cover the very recent exchanges on E2E.

Regards
John

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From: David RR Webber (XML) <david@drrw.info>
To: John Borras <johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: EML TC <election-services@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Sunday, 19 October, 2008 18:54:02
Subject: RE: [election-services] Fw: EML V6?

John,

I'd like to suggest we formalize the "10 Reasons for EML" pamphlet as a lead in to this task.

That way we can understand the challenges and the needs better.

For example I believe we've identified E2E as something to support and therefore we need to look at how V5 currently does that - and then gaps we would want to consider covering.

The VIP need for polling place location tracking would be one such example.

Also I can probably add a new transaction format to support anonymous tallying methods to the list for V6.

I'd like to defer on all this until we have a better big picture for the goals and focus for what V6 is looking to achieve and got consensus.

Right now we're just looking at bottom up XSD schema tweeks - and I think we need a stronger vision than just that.

Thanks, DW

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Subject: [election-services] Fw: EML V6?
From: John Borras <johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Sun, October 19, 2008 1:44 pm
To: EML TC <election-services@lists.oasis-open.org>

Rather disappointingly I have had only one response to my enquiry about EML v6. I hope this is because everybody is busy with the USA elections rather than lack of interest .....-)

So even though the one vote was in favour of starting work we clearly don't have a consensus so I'll park it until after we get the outcome of the ISO ballot. Note the date for that has still not been set.

Regards
John

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Skype: gov3john

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From: David RR Webber (XML) <david@drrw.info>
To: John Borras <johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: EML TC <election-services@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 8 October, 2008 2:53:37
Subject: RE: [election-services] Fw: EML V6?

John,

Given everything else that is going on - I'd say it is an opportune moment for us to move forward with V6.

Looking thru the list I'd like to add placeholders for new polling place and registration transactions to support the VIP area of work, and also add a note to look at military voting needs. At this point I'm not sure what these may end up being implemented as - but when we look more I'm sure we will understand these better.

Thanks, DW

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Subject: [election-services] Fw: EML V6?
From: John Borras <johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Tue, October 07, 2008 9:15 am
To: EML TC <election-services@lists.oasis-open.org>

Sorry the attached is the latest version of the Wishes List.

Regards
John

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From: John Borras <johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk>
To: EML TC <election-services@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Tuesday, 7 October, 2008 14:08:23
Subject: EML V6?

As you are aware we have submitted EML v5 to ISO/JTC1 for approval and I had said that we should await any further work on EML until the outcome of that process was complete to avoid confusion. The latest news I have is that JTC1 have still not set a date for their ballot and so it's still likely to be several months before we know whether we have ISO status or not. There's nothing we can do about that, even though Jamie Bryce is continually pressing them, as they dictate their work priorities.

Given that I wonder whether there is any pressing need, and any appetite, to start work on a v6. Attached is the Wishes List I have so far and I'd welcome views please on whether you wish to make a start or if you are content to await the outcome of the JTC1 process. Probably item 2 on the List is the biggest and most important task for us and is needed to assist implementations. If the consensus is to start work then I will convene a TC telecon to discuss the next steps.

Regards
John

M. +44 (0)7976 157745
Skype: gov3john

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