Re: [election-services] EML v7 NEXT STEPS

[David Webber <david.webber@oracle.com>]

Neal,

Please realize that it is almost impossible to create formal guidance here.

Typically however - companies will use these statements as part of their marketing
and product literature with customers - so new capabilities are the ones they will
be looking to provide.

But it is equally possible someone may be looking to show solid continued services
that have not been displaced just because the schema in use are newer ones.

And bear in mind what OASIS is also wanting is the indication of confidence and
support from member companies - that they are behind the TC's work.

And just FYI - the company does not actually have to be a member of the TC - but
an OASIS member - I had Nortel validate one specification for a TC I was a member
of - and they starting using the standard - but had not contributed to it at all.

For example the State of California would be another example for us.

Thanks, DW

----- Original Message -----
From: neal@bcn.boulder.co.us
To: johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: david.webber@oracle.com, election-services@lists.oasis-open.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 5:16:29 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [election-services] EML v7 NEXT STEPS

Really?  So any standard that is backwards compatible can be marked as "implemented" just because the same folks still implement the old bits?  If so that would seem..... well I'll hold off for now.....

-Neal

On Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 03:27:26PM -0000, John Borras wrote:
> Thanks.  Of course the Statement of Use do not require any member org to have
> to be using all of the Spec, so in so far as many bits of it haven?t changed
> some may feel able to give the Statement based on their experience of using
> parts of a previous version which hasn?t been changed by v7.  They would
> technically still be compliant with v7 IMO.
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> 
> John
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> From: David Webber [mailto:david.webber@oracle.com]
> Sent: 01 November 2011 15:13
> To: johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk
> Cc: election-services@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: [election-services] EML v7 NEXT STEPS
> 
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> John,
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> 
> And here we are again... seems like only yesterday we were here before.
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> OASIS guidelines and requirements as we know are rather open ended and left up
> to the individual member companies
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> and their circumstance to direct.
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> From the Oracle stance I am hoping that the work we have done with NIST on the
> EML Test Suite and publishing that
> 
> toolset for EML v7 will be sufficient.  That will depend on Corporate standards
> team review of course - but I will
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> initiate that process this week.
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> Similarly for other member companies here - the test suite does provide means
> to verify their own data feeds, and similarly the XSLT
> 
> tools we have shared for transforming VIP XML into EML v7 - so hopefully this!
> all facilitates others being able to
> 
> make statements of use also.
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> Thanks, DW
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk
> To: election-services@lists.oasis-open.org
> Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 7:03:46 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: [election-services] EML v7 NEXT STEPS
> 
> 
> 
> Now that we have approved EML v7 as a Committee Specification (see http://
> www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/election/ballot.php?id=2130 ) we need to
> consider when we can move onto the final step in the approval process, that of
> it becoming an OASIS Standard.  Below is an extract from the TC Handbook that
> sets out the first stage of the process and focuses on the need for three
> Statements of Use.    It would be good to get a  feel from our organisational
> members, ie David, Peter and Sven,  when they will be able to provide the
> required Statements please.   Clearly it would be good to get past this stage
> before we get a request for further updates from IEEE/P1622 or other sources
> but I appreciate it may take time for them to adopt v7.
> 
> Often a Work Product will remain at the Committee Specification stage for a
> period of time while implementations are developed and tested. Only when a TC
> has received at least three Statements of Use from OASIS Organizational Members
> certifying that they have successfully implemented or are using the
> specification in accordance with the specification's conformance clause(s) is
> the TC able to progress the Work Product to Candidate OASIS Standard and submit
> it for OASIS Standard ballot.
> 
> Statements of Use:
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> §  A written statement by an OASIS Organizational Member stating that it is
> successfully using or implementing a specification in accordance with the
> conformance clauses stated therein; and stating whether its use included the
> interoperation of multiple independent implementations
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> Regards
> 
> John Borras
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> Chair OASIS E&VS Technical Committee
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> m. +(0)44 7976 157745
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> Skype:  gov3john
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