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Subject: Re: [emergency-msg] 11:00 AM EST SitRep today: New ICS report
Thanks Tim, If someone could forward the attachments to me at this email address or to rexbroo@gmail.com I would appreciate it. Cheers, Rex On 7/12/11 4:52 AM, Timothy Grapes wrote: 020201cc408a$1e52d030$5af87090$@com" type="cite">All, Please don't forget our SitRep meeting today. See below - and attached is Don's team's work on the ICS example. I have not yet had the chance to discuss my initial questions so we'll hit them on the call. The other attachments (pdf and excel) relate to my questions below. Thanks, Tim Tim Grapes Evotec (703) 304-4829 If I had six hours to cut down a tree, I'd spend four hours sharpening the ax. -Abraham Lincoln From: Timothy Grapes [mailto:tgrapes@evotecinc.com] Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:46 PM To: 'McGarry, Donald P.'; ''Rob Torchon'' Subject: RE: New ICS report Importance: High Guys, Just back from travel to look at this, but before diving deeper I have a couple stage-setting questions... 1. Have the "problems" below been addressed in this version? 2. Don, is your purpose to have Rob and I take a glance before sending to the SitRep SC for their review? 3. At a glance, I see things both below and on the form I didn't think were a part of this ICS form, e.g. 33: Today's observed fire behavior... and others. So I did some investigation... Though I think we should probably move forward with what we have, given the work put in, I'm not sure this form is the latest / agreed-to 209 version to work from. The one attached is the one originally agreed to, and also matches Rob's initial SitRep mapping excel file. Not sure where the working version came from, Don. I just want to make sure it won't be an issue when practitioners check it out? a. I do see now that Don's May message mapping the 209 form did show your version and I should have caught it at that time..., but for now it's a question. 4. Regarding Rob's weather question, it somewhat goes back to # 4, where the 209 contains "Weather Concerns" (a driver from the 209 form in the SitRep requirements, but not included in this working example); and "Weather Effects". I don't see these in this working example a. Weather concerns was left as a string within SitReps b. Weather Effects was determined to be broken out as a complex type in the "Common Types" reusable component - for use with any EDXL standard. i. What I don't recall is whether we got this in immediately, or deal with it later... Anyway, stopped there for now to get a check on these things before diving deeper. Thanks, Tim Tim Grapes Evotec (703) 304-4829 If I had six hours to cut down a tree, I'd spend four hours sharpening the ax. -Abraham Lincoln From: McGarry, Donald P. [mailto:dmcgarry@mitre.org] Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 7:58 AM To: Timothy Grapes; 'Rob Torchon' (rtorchon@yahoo.com) Subject: FW: New ICS report Can you take a look at this sample ICS form and let me know if it is ok? -Don <mailto:dmcgarry@mitre.org> dmcgarry@mitre.org 703-595-9375 From: Kaufmann, Max Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 1:23 PM To: McGarry, Donald P.; Gerschefske, Kelly Subject: RE: New ICS report Here is the revised ICS report (and a new DE object) Here are all of the problems with said report: The following fields I didn't fill in because I wasn't sure what they corresponded to: 3: Initial/Update/Final 10: IMT Type 17: Expected containment Date/Time 18: Line to Build (#chains) 20: Declared Controlled 26: Communities/Critical infrastructure Threatened 29: Resources threatened 31: Resource benefits/objectives (for prescribed/wildland fire use only) 32: Fuels/Materials Involved: 33: Today's observed fire behavior 35: Estimated Control Date and Time 40: Projected incident movement/spread during next operational period:</b><br/></td> 41: For fire incidents, please describe resistance to control in terms of Growth Potentential/Difficulty of Terrain. 42:How likely is it that containment/control targets will be met, given the current resources and suppression/control strategy? 44: Remarks. Not sure what this corresponds to. Rob suggested EmergencyResponseIssuesAndOperationalActivities, but I can't find that field in the schema 46: Cooperating and Assisting Agencies 49: Sent to. The following fields I left blank: 11/12 (State/County): We only have the points of these, we would need to geolocate these points to fill in these fields Also, "Weather" is just stored as a string, but in the sample form you gave me, it asks for Temperature/Wind speed and direction/Humidity. I just put the string in for now, but we should consider changing weather to be a valuelist. And the humanLifeAndSafetyThreat thing I mentioned earlier From: McGarry, Donald P. Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 10:45 AM To: Kaufmann, Max; Gerschefske, Kelly Subject: RE: New ICS report Sounds good. Let me know when you get something more. -Don <mailto:dmcgarry@mitre.org> dmcgarry@mitre.org 703-595-9375 From: Kaufmann, Max Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 9:44 AM To: McGarry, Donald P.; Gerschefske, Kelly Subject: RE: New ICS report It just didn't like the way some of the variables were declared, it was actually a pretty easy fix. We are cleaning it up a bit more and then will send you a revised version. Max From: McGarry, Donald P. Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 10:43 AM To: Gerschefske, Kelly; Kaufmann, Max Subject: RE: New ICS report I know that XMLSpy uses the Microsoft XML Engine unless you specify another one at setup...It did run fine on my machine, however I am using XMLSpy. -Don <mailto:dmcgarry@mitre.org> dmcgarry@mitre.org 703-595-9375 From: Gerschefske, Kelly Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 6:32 AM To: Kaufmann, Max; McGarry, Donald P. Subject: Re: New ICS report When I run it in Oxygen, it doesn't compile or run. Are you using XMLSpy specific functions? Which XSLT engine does Altova use? From: "Kaufmann, Max" <jkaufmann@mitre.org> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 18:01:58 -0400 To: Donald McGarry <dmcgarry@mitre.org> Cc: kwhitacre <kjg@mitre.org> Subject: New ICS report Hey, I fixed the ICS report so that it works in any major browser (chrome/FF/IE), at the price of prettiness. The only thing that I think should be changed is that the field to fill in 26) is <HumanLifeAndSafetyThreat>, which is a string. But it would be easier if it were a value list. It would look something like this: <HumanLifeAndSafetyThreat> <ValueListURI="http://whatever"/> <Value=" EvacuationsInProgress "/> </HumanLifeAndSafetyThreat> Max--------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that generates this mail. Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php |
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