RE: [humanmarkup] food for thought

["Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@ingr.com>]

HyTime grew out of music work and there have been 
different efforts to use SGML and musical notation 
systems.  MIDI being essentially control information 
to a synthethizer for patches, GM instruments, 
expression parameters, etc. could certainly be 
XMLized.  The contribution of that to HumanML 
seems scarce though, so I'm sure where that goes. 

In the genre example, I borrowed <par> and <seq> 
from SMIL 1.0 to demonstrate nesting of chronemic 
information to describe actions.  It is one 
of those overlaps in that scheduling 
is vital to almost any simulation or analysis 
of time-based information.  If you examine 
the interpolation components of VRML, you 
see similar concepts for key frame-based animation. 

A problem of HumanML will be to decide just 
what is high level information and what should 
be added in by transformation given that the 
downtranslation target will have it's own 
representations the closer one gets to the 
implementation objects.   EMOTE has very 
interesting concepts for shaping the motions 
of an animated character using a level that 
seems to be between what HumanML has described 
and what H-anim might use.  I am unsure if this 
is middleware data or goes in HumanML or H-anim.  I am 
inclined to think it is a middleware dataset 
in which HumanML uses a simple intensity value 
to scale an emotion, an EMOTE engine target 
gets that and creates a more detailed LMA 
based dataset, then the final rendering in 
say H-anim or SVG is created.  Hard to say 
and other opinions on that would be appreciated. 

My concern is mostly that HumanML stay high level 
and very easy to use so that the derived languages 
get most of the work and the HumanML is repurposable.
Even as we look at domains, we have to ask ourselves 
first what the role of HumanML is quite precisely 
in the abstraction layer.

Len 
http://www.mp3.com/LenBullard

Ekam sat.h, Vipraah bahudhaa vadanti.
Daamyata. Datta. Dayadhvam.h


-----Original Message-----
From: Kurt Cagle [mailto:kurt@kurtcagle.net]


This is perhaps off topic, but is anyone aware of a MIDI to XML schema map?
I have to wonder about the intersection between an XML-ized MIDI, SMIL and
HumanML ...