RE: &

["Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@ingr.com>]

Just point them off to the interviews they did with 
their high school counselor and ask if they would 
like that to be on their permanent record in French 
or English given that it affected their opportunities 
in college and possibly for some time afterwards.

Or better yet, tag one of the criticisms according 
to your view of it, return it to them and ask them 
if the tags represent what they mean.  No matter what 
they reply, thank them for helping out with HumanML by
providing that feedback.

Words do count.

Len 
http://www.mp3.com/LenBullard

Ekam sat.h, Vipraah bahudhaa vadanti.
Daamyata. Datta. Dayadhvam.h


-----Original Message-----
From: Sean B. Palmer [mailto:sean@mysterylights.com]

> The world is flat and bumblebees and men can't fly.

My point was that we don't give a crap about whether or not bumblebees can
or cannot fly, but are instead interested in something totally different.
I'm saying that the way that people percieve HumanML is a direct
consequence of what they've read about it, and if they're slagging it off,
then whatever they've read about it must have been poorly written, or else
the people are utter fools. Or both. But you *have* to concede that our PR
material both past and present has been at best misleading. And that
doesn't say much about us as a project.

The name "HumanMarkup" is a dangerous misnomer, and that the other points I
raised about HumanMarkup (way/odd) are something that we need to get people
to at least get thinking about, somehow.

Saying, "hey, the fact that these people don't understand what we're doing
is proof that we're doing something good" is, IMO, a pretty weak point
unless you consider all of the factors behind that statement. For a start,
if people don't understand what we're doing, then we should educate them.
If those people are right about some things, then we have to investigate
that. If people sneer at good and bad projects alike, how can we tell the
difference? You can't use that fact as proof, you just can't. You can use
it as a humorous observation because we *are* doing something that's on the
right track, but you can't use it to state that we are on the right track.

--
Kindest Regards,
Sean B. Palmer
@prefix : <http://webns.net/roughterms/> .
:Sean :hasHomepage <http://purl.org/net/sbp/> .


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