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Subject: RE: [legalcitem-technical] Question about identifiers and multiple documents
Hi Chet, Unfortunately legislation does cite the acts as a group without specifying a particular one. Although this citation style isn’t too widely used, the usual purpose is where there are some legal functions with a certain property that occur in more than one Act that the drafter wants to refer to. Instead of trying to list all the different documents each time they list them once and reuse the definition. Some examples of text referring to “the Education Acts” below: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1996/56/section/3 : The definition of “pupil” in Subsections (1) and (1A) also apply (unless the context otherwise requires) for the purposes of any instrument made or having effect as if made under the Education Acts. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1996/56/schedule/1/paragraph/4 : A person who is registered as a pupil at a school other than a pupil referral unit shall not, by reason only of being registered also as a pupil at such a unit, cease for the purposes of the Education Acts to be treated as a registered pupil at that school. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1976/74/section/18A : It is unlawful for the Learning and Skills Council for England, the Higher Education Funding Council for England or the Higher Education Funding Council for Wales in carrying out their functions under the Education Acts and the Learning and Skills Act 2000, to do any act which constitutes racial discrimination or harassment. I’d be really interested to know if this is a feature that is unique to UK legislation or if anyone knows of something similar being used in other types of document. I’m guessing that the amount of effort it’s worth making to accommodate this kind of citation might depend on how widely used it is? Catherine From: legalcitem-technical@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:legalcitem-technical@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Chet Ensign Catherine, wow. That is an interesting example. I don't know that I ever saw that in U.S. legislation but there are others here who will know far better than I. Looking at your example, it looks like "The Education Acts" is intended to be addressed as a unit. However, would anyone ever cite to The Education Acts or would they be more likely to cite to something like a section of Education (Fees and Awards) Act 1983 in The Education Acts. I think that is the key question. /chet On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Tabone, Catherine <Catherine.Tabone@nationalarchives.gsi.gov.uk> wrote: Hi, Following our discussions about the Fundamental Requirements document I remembered a citation format from UK legislation that might cause some problems. At the moment the definitions assume that a citation is a reference to a single document or a fragment thereof. However, there are situations where citations can be to groups of documents, something along the lines of Acts x, y and z shall be referred to (in this document or in others) as the "Alphabet acts", See http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1996/56/section/578 for a real example (also note that the definition gets amended just to be more confusing!) I'm guessing that this is something that happens for other legal documents too? Are these types of citations outside the scope of these requirements or do we need to find a way to include them? Kind regards,
Catherine Tabone Data Manager Legislation Services The National Archives, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU www.legislation.gov.uk | www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: legalcitem-technical@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:legalcitem-technical@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Chet Ensign All - Like Grant, I am now confused about identifiers and where they fit. In our definitions of the terms we're using, does a 'reference' contain an 'identifier'? Or does a resolver take a reference and use it to find or construct an identifier that it then uses to navigate to the document? Perhaps laying out the relationships of these pieces will help us answer some of these open questions. -- Check your work using the Support Request Submission Checklist at http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/47248/tc-admin-submission-checklist.html
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