RE: [legalxml-courtfiling] Proposed "person" object

["Poindexter, Gary W" <gpoindexter@kpmg.com>]

As one who is working on a non-court filing implementation (i.e. complaints) I find the court filing concepts of actor and roles far superior to this proposal.

 

They made some name changes for no apparent reason. PersonalID vs. PersonalIdentification - why? One of the basic concepts of the DD is to not use abbreviations. Their first change substitutes a definitive tag name with one that uses an abbreviation.

 

They changed PersonalIdentifiers to specific types of personal identifiers. I find the flexibility of the current model superior to what is proposed.

 

They have created a division through person classes that does not work as well as Actor and Role. A police officer can be both the "arresting officer" and a "witness." Their proposal does not appear to permit this without creating two subclasses. With the current court filing model I can create an Actor and give them two roles - one as an arresting officer and one as a witness. It appears that I can create the same structure with the proposed model, but why change the model unless it has some superior qualities that I am not seeing.

 

Their model is probably workable, but it does not seem to be superior to what we have in the Justice DD and the court filing DTD. I am not willing to change unless there is purpose and value add from the change. Don't move my cheese unless you can justify the move.

 

gary

-----Original Message-----
From: John M. Greacen [mailto:john@greacen.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:05 PM
To: Court Filing List
Subject: [legalxml-courtfiling] Proposed "person" object

Please review this proposal carefully and get me your comments.  Note the Sept 2 comment deadline.

In ECFS 1.0 and 1.1 we use an "actor" element which encompasses persons, entities and things -- all of which can be parties to cases (persons, corporations or associations, and ships, autos or currency in in rem proceedings).  I have asked whether the proposed "super object" is intended to serve the purpose of our "actor" element.

Are there other problems with the proposed structure of this "person object" from our point of view?

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