RE: [legalxml-courtfiling] Charter revision second draft

[John Messing <jmessing@law-on-line.com>]

The ABA Science and Technology Law Section has posted electronic service
of process best practices which can be viewed on the ABA website at
http://www.abanet.org/scitech/BestPracticesElectronicService.html

Is blue intended to include e-service of process or just e-service of
court documents?

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> Subject: Re: [legalxml-courtfiling] Charter revision second draft
> From: "Dallas Powell" <dpowell@tybera.com>
> Date: Mon, September 27, 2004 12:33 pm
> To: "Electronic Court Filing Technical Committeee"
> <legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org>
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> It sounds reasonable to leave this issue on the table for now, and perhaps bring it up at the next f2f.  My question is how often should we update the charter.
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> Dallas
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>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Smith, Christopher 
>   To: Winters, Roger ; Cabral, James E. ; Dallas Powell ; Electronic Court Filing Technical Committeee 
>   Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 12:46 PM
>   Subject: RE: [legalxml-courtfiling] Charter revision second draft
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>   I would also add to Roger's comment that Electronic Filing occurs in many industries outside of the courts (IRS, banking, etc).  As a result, I think we need to keep the word Court or Legal in the name somehow.  Speaking from a court point of view, I also think the first priority of this group should be determining standards for the flow of information into and out of the court for electronic filing.  
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>   Nonetheless, California is facing the same issue that Dallas raises that vendors are looking for guidelines for sharing information between parties where the court is not involved.  I feel we should probably limit Blue to what we decided last week in Seattle but it would be helpful to document these ideas for post-Blue work.  Are we tracking issues such as this for future versions of the standards?  
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>   Christopher
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Winters, Roger [mailto:Roger.Winters@METROKC.GOV]
>     Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 11:35 AM
>     To: 'Cabral, James E.'; Dallas Powell; Electronic Court Filing Technical Committeee
>     Subject: RE: [legalxml-courtfiling] Charter revision second draft
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>     I think it is important to retain the current name (which we have had from the start) at least until after Blue has been completed. Reasons include that there is a substantial court interest in this work and, further, that the associated transactions envisioned, for example, in including e-service, relate to the judicial process and court cases. Even transactions, such as discovery exchange, which do not require direct involvement by the judge or clerk (except to enforce rules), would not take place except for there being a court case involved. 
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>     I reserve the right to be persuaded otherwise, but I think that such a change should be the product of deliberation and review - including discussion at a face-to-face meeting.
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>     Regards,
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>     Roger
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>     Roger Winters
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>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Cabral, James E. [mailto:JCabral@mtgmc.com] 
>     Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:11 AM
>     To: Dallas Powell; Electronic Court Filing Technical Committeee
>     Subject: RE: [legalxml-courtfiling] Charter revision second draft
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>     Given our decision to include e-service in the scope of Blue, this makes sense to me.
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>     Jim Cabral 
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>     From: Dallas Powell [mailto:dpowell@tybera.com] 
>     Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:05 AM
>     To: Electronic Court Filing Technical Committeee
>     Subject: Re: [legalxml-courtfiling] Charter revision second draft
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>     I would like throw out a change in naming from "Electronic Court Filing Technical Committee" to "Electronic Filing Technical Committee" and emphasize in our system as an environment for legal documents.  The intent is ease the distinction between what we do and the data exchange environment for IJIS or attorney to attorney for notification which may not always require a court to intervene as was discussed in the f2f?
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>     Dallas
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>       ----- Original Message ----- 
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>       From: John Greacen 
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>       To: Electronic Court Filing Technical Committeee 
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>       Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 5:45 PM
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>       Subject: [legalxml-courtfiling] Charter revision second draft
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>       I attach a "clean" version of the proposed revised Technical Committee charter.  At the face to face in Seattle, the group present proposed that specific tasks and deadlines not appear in the charter, but rather be posted as a unique document and updated on the TC web page.  Those items change too frequently to be appropriate for a charter, with its lengthy amendment approval process - which includes the OASIS Board of Directors.  I have made appropriate changes to reflect that position.  I have also clarified the discussion of the action taken by the COSCA/NACM Joint Technology Committee on the four specifications developed by the TC's predecessor organization.
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>       I ask Robin Gibson to put this revised charter to a vote using OASIS's Kavi system.  Please be aware that it must be approved by the OASIS Board before it takes effect.
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