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Subject: RE: [oasis-member-discuss] RE: RDDL use in ASIS


Thought it was obvious.

 

1. We never documented why we dropped RDDL. It was not because we didn’t like the concept of RDDL.

2. Because RDDL consists of a bunch of different documents scattered around on various web sites with no clear home, it could disappear tomorrow.

3. It is not only unclear what version of RDDL to cite, it is unclear even what version represents the best and latest. The tree appears to have forked.

4. Although every version is labeled as a non-final draft, no work has been done for two years. This suggests that the spec is an orphan and not something OASIS should cite either normatively or as a best practice.

 

Hal

 


From: Christopher B Ferris [mailto:chrisfer@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:25 PM
To: Hal Lockhart
Cc: James Bryce Clark; Norman Walsh; oasis-member-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org; William Cox
Subject: [oasis-member-discuss] RE: RDDL use in ASIS

 


And the point being?

Christopher Ferris
STSM, Software Group Standards Strategy
email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com
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"Hal Lockhart" <hlockhar@bea.com> wrote on 03/02/2006 05:12:51 PM:

> > | What do others think? As I said, there was a lot of pushback on
> RDDL.
> >
> > I don't recall reading the pushback on RDDL, but "and preference to
> > have an index.html or one of the other default HTML pages" isn't
> > related. RDDL is a mechanism for placing metadata in HTML.
>
>
> Ok, for the record, last summer Bill and I tried to figure out the
> standards pedigree of RDDL so we could cite it.
>
> No sign of it at W3C, not even published as a Note.
>
> At www.rddl.org, there is a spec dated Feb 18, 2002, no version
> specified. I guess this is version 1.
>
> At http://www.openhealth.org/RDDL/20040118/rddl-20040118.html there is a
> spec dated Jan 18, 2004 marked as version 2.0. It describes itself as "a
> draft".
>
> At http://www.tbray.org/tag/rddl/rddl3.html there is a document dated
> June 1, 2003, with no version. Not sure what version this is. Perhaps
> Tim's private version? If it is RDDL 3, it is older than RDDL 2.0.
>
> All of these contain the sentence "This document has no official
> standing and has not been considered nor approved by any organization."
>
> There are also a number of articles, implementations and even a
> Wikipedia article (which points to the 2002 version). The 2004 version
> says "While this document has no official standing, it is the intention
> of the TAG to seek guidance from the W3C membership and the larger
> community on the question of whether and how to progress this document
> and the use of RDDL." As far as I can see there has been no work done on
> RDDL in 2 years.
>
> Will the real RDDL please stand up? If this is as great stuff as you all
> say it is, can't somebody put in enough time to push it thru an OASIS TC
> or publish it as a TAG Finding? If I put a normative reference to
> something with a pedigree like this in an OASIS Committee Spec and
> submitted it for member approval, I would end up with a bunch of arrows
> sticking out of me.
>
> Hal
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