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Subject: FW: oBIX, WSRF, and WSN
Fyi tc =================================================== Toby Considine ! "There are seldom good UNC Chapel Hill ! technological solutions to Chapel Hill, NC ! behavioral problems." Phone (919)962-9073 ! Fax (919)962-1102 ! -- Ed Crowley tobias@fac.unc.edu ! =================================================== -----Original Message----- From: Ian Robinson [mailto:ian_robinson@uk.ibm.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 3:18 PM To: Considine, Toby (Facilities Technology Office) Cc: d.snelling@fle.fujitsu.com Subject: RE: oBIX, WSRF, and WSN Toby, I have pencilled you into the TC agenda for an hour before lunch (11AM) on Thursday 3rd: 11:00am - oBIX: Introduction and discussion of scenarios (Toby Considine) Toby is the chair of the oBIX TC. oBIX's goal is to develop enterprise web services interfaces to building control systems e.g. HVAC, Access Control, Surveillance, Elevators, Automatic doors, . . . oBIX appears to have much in common with WSDM and may be able to leverage WS-RF directly or through WSDM. The purpose of this session is for Toby to introduce the technology and for an informal discussion on potential use of WS-RF. Are you still happy to lead this session and does this time work OK for you? Regards, Ian "Considine, Toby (Facilities Technology To Office)" Ian Robinson/UK/IBM@IBMGB, Steve <Toby.Considine@f Graham <sggraham@us.ibm.com> ac.unc.edu> cc d.snelling@fle.fujitsu.com, Heather 13/01/2005 12:44 Kreger <kreger@us.ibm.com>, Peter Niblett/UK/IBM@IBMGB, "Vambenepe, William N" <vbp@hp.com>, winston_bumpus@dell.com Subject RE: oBIX, WSRF, and WSN I like both of your suggestions. Let's schedule something in the evening early in the week, and whatever meets your schedule late in the week. Thanks Bizarrely, with such a seeming niche, it is not hard to imagine scenarios in which there are more oBIX ERPs than all others combined... tc =================================================== Toby Considine ! "There are seldom good UNC Chapel Hill ! technological solutions to Chapel Hill, NC ! behavioral problems." Phone (919)962-9073 ! Fax (919)962-1102 ! -- Ed Crowley tobias@fac.unc.edu ! =================================================== -----Original Message----- From: Ian Robinson [mailto:ian_robinson@uk.ibm.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 6:34 PM To: Steve Graham; Considine, Toby (Facilities Technology Office) Cc: d.snelling@fle.fujitsu.com; Heather Kreger; Peter Niblett; Vambenepe, William N; winston_bumpus@dell.com Subject: RE: oBIX, WSRF, and WSN I'll be arriving in the US late Tues so won't be around until Weds AM. I thought it might be nice to have a combined group dinner on Weds. Given the general preference expressed to meet with Toby earlier in the week, I suggest you work it around the social diary of WS-N in the first half of the week and I will send my regrets right now that I won't be able to join you for that. Having said that, if Toby wished, we'd be more than happy (I am presuming to speak also for my co-chair Dave here) to schedule some time on the WS-RF agenda for Toby to give an overview of oBIX to the TC and have an ad-hoc discussion about how oBIX might use WS-RF, WS-N and WSDM. Toby - let me know if this is appealing. This would be very informal - you've met Steve so far but the rest of us are all much shorter and less scary. Regards, Ian Robinson STSM, WS-RF co-chair IBM Hursley Lab, UK ian_robinson@uk.ibm.com Steve Graham <sggraham@us.ibm. com> To Heather Kreger <kreger@us.ibm.com> 12/01/2005 05:07 cc d.snelling@fle.fujitsu.com, Ian Robinson/UK/IBM@IBMGB, Peter Niblett/UK/IBM@IBMGB, Toby.Considine@fac.unc.edu, "Vambenepe, William N" <vbp@hp.com>, winston_bumpus@dell.com Subject RE: oBIX, WSRF, and WSN hmmm.... good point on the group dinners thing. Ok, am looking for feedback from the WSN and WSRF co-chairs. Shall we organize 2 dinners (one for each TC) or have one on Wed? Please advise. sgg ++++++++ Steve Graham (919)254-0615 (T/L 444) STSM, IBM Software Group, Web services and SOA Member, IBM Academy of Technology <Soli Deo Gloria/> ++++++++ Heather Kreger/Ral eigh/IBM To <Toby.Considine@fac.unc.edu>, Steve 01/11/2005 Graham/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS 09:31 AM cc d.snelling@fle.fujitsu.com, "Ian Robinson" <ian_robinson@uk.ibm.com>, peter_niblett@uk.ibm.com, "Considine, Toby (Facilities Technology Office)" <Toby.Considine@fac.unc.edu>, "Vambenepe, William N" <vbp@hp.com>, winston_bumpus@dell.com Subject RE: oBIX, WSRF, and WSN Toby, I'm located in RTP too... very near Steve Graham. This sounds like a great opportunity and I can be flexible on when we meet (an evening or Friday during the day). Steve, what nights are the organized group dinners? We should try to avoid conflicting with them. We could meet Monday or Tuesday. I'd be happy to find meeting space. Heather Kreger STSM, Web Services Lead Architect for SWG Emerging Technologies Author of "Java and JMX: Building Manageable Systems" kreger@us.ibm.com 919-543-3211 (t/l 441) cell:919-496-9572 Steve Graham/Ra leigh/IBM To "Vambenepe, William N" <vbp@hp.com> 01/09/200 cc 5 09:03 d.snelling@fle.fujitsu.com, Heather PM Kreger/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, "Ian Robinson" <ian_robinson@uk.ibm.com>, peter_niblett@uk.ibm.com, "Considine, Toby (Facilities Technology Office)" <Toby.Considine@fac.unc.edu>, winston_bumpus@dell.com Subject RE: oBIX, WSRF, and WSNLink in our discussions Toby and I did touch upon the similarities between the WSDM work and the oBIX work. ++++++++ Steve Graham (919)254-0615 (T/L 444) STSM, IBM Software Group, Web services and SOA Member, IBM Academy of Technology <Soli Deo Gloria/> ++++++++ "Vambenepe, William N" <vbp@hp.com> To "Considine, Toby (Facilities Technology 01/09/2005 Office)" <Toby.Considine@fac.unc.edu>, 08:11 PM <d.snelling@fle.fujitsu.com>, "Ian Robinson" <ian_robinson@uk.ibm.com>, <peter_niblett@uk.ibm.com> cc Heather Kreger/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, <winston_bumpus@dell.com>, Steve Graham/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS Subject RE: oBIX, WSRF, and WSN Hi Toby, I think this is an excellent idea. I would suggest to extend this not just to WSRF and WSN but also to WSDM (which might also have been your intention since you cc'ed Heather and Winston). I think you'll find WSDM very relevant to this work. At this point I am planning to leave Raleigh at the end of Thursday afternoon, so I'd rather meet on an evening in the first part of the week. Regards, William From: Considine, Toby (Facilities Technology Office) [mailto:Toby.Considine@fac.unc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 5:46 PM To: 'd.snelling@fle.fujitsu.com'; Ian Robinson; Vambenepe, William N; 'peter_niblett@uk.ibm.com' Cc: 'kreger@us.ibm.com'; 'winston_bumpus@dell.com'; 'Steve Graham' Subject: oBIX, WSRF, and WSN I am the Chair of the OASIS oBIX TC. oBIX's goal is to develop enterprise web services interfaces to building control systems. Building control systems run the building services such ass HVAC, Access Control, Surveillance, Elevators, Automatic doors, . . . We have a list of more than 50 of them and we're sure we have left out many. The goal is to expose them to the enterprise, whether the enterprise is the Owner, the Operators/Maintenance, or the Tenants. It is not hard to come up with scenarios in which there are more oBIX end points than all other XML vocabs combined, so distributed management is a key concern. In some ways, oBIX can be thought of as JINI for the oughts... Most of the oBIX committee is from the controls world, so we are not as familiar as we might be with the full suite of WS*. For the first draft[s] we isolated ourselves, to get the first concepts out, and to define what we are up to. Now that we have some specs up on the OASIS site, we are exploring the nearby spaces, trying to understand how we might normalize our standard to leverage tools and standards. I met today for a couple hours with Steve Graham, who was most generous of his time in explaining where oBIX might fit in to these allied domains. He mentioned that WSN and WSRF would be meeting in the Research Triangle at the end of the month. As I am based in the Triangle, and the chair of the oBIX XML SC is in Richmond, we were wondering if we could meet with you either some evening (early, as Richmond is 2-3 hours away) or Friday afternoon to understand better if we should be recasting our work into alignment with yours. I welcome suggestions. Thanks TC oBIX TC Chair ""I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." -- Galileo Galilei Toby Considine Email: Toby.Considine@fac.unc.edu Facilities Technology Office Phone: (919)962-9073 University of North Carolina Chapel Hill, NC
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