Re: [office-collab] Using RDF for Change Tracking serialization?

[Robin LaFontaine <robin.lafontaine@deltaxml.com>]

The question Dennis asks is the key question. From the discussion it seems RDF may be well suited for some areas of change tracking but definitely not well suited for others (deletion for example). But to use it for some change tracking and not all would seem very strange and difficult to justify.

I am not convinced by the RDF representations being any better or easier to process than the original XML (worse in some cases IMHO). So I am, at the moment, not persuaded that it makes sense to use RDF for change tracking.

Robin

On 21/05/2011 19:42, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

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Well, I can't speak to degrees of sorrow [;<).

My lingering question is, what does RDF provide for a custom change-tracking structure that can't be done directly and more straightforwardly in XML?  Then we can stick to the schema approach and tooling we already have in order to use XML in conveying an ODF document structure.  I can't figure out what a diversion through RDF technology and back again accomplishes.

 - Dennis

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Subject: RE: [office-collab] Using RDF for Change Tracking serialization?

On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 20:10 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

So how do you propose to refer to tracked changes from RDF if they 
places you are referencing don't have URI references?

If you are using literals, no generic RDF system will know what you 
are doing at all.  And I don't see you doing anything with private 
identifiers that you can't do within the XML itself, since ODF already 
does that with other private (none ID-type) identifiers for other 
purposes.

Indeed, literals. No generic RDF system needs to know what I am doing at all. These triples are for the change tracking to see. The use of literals means that the generic system can be fine with just preserving them.

 - Dennis

PS: Actually, I'm sorry I am asking, since I don't think this avenue 
is worth pursuing in the first place.

I wonder if your comment implies that I should be sorry answering too.



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