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Subject: IRC log from today's meeting - 2014-01-15
Please find the IRC log of today's meeting below. Our next meeting will be next year on the 29th of January. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2014&month=01&day=29&hour=15&min=30&sec=0&p1=179&p2=37&p3=136&p4=234&iv=1800 https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-collab/event.php?event_id=36614The teleconference login data for next call will be found in the OASIS calendar event (URL above). Attendees: John, Oliver, Friedrich, Jos, Peter, Svante [16:32] anonymous morphed into John Haug [16:32] Friedrich morphed into Friedrich W. H. Kossebau [16:34] Svante Schubert: Jos mail about operations in webodf - https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-collab/201312/msg00010.html My reply to this https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-collab/201401/msg00000.html And an earlier mail (2. July 2012) on XML user data reusage: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-collab/201207/msg00000.html [16:34] Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: this FOSDEM devroom more or less has focus on the development of ODF supporting application [16:41] Svante Schubert: Oliver: The cursor is likely to be in the settings.xml, he will take a closer look [16:43] Svante Schubert: Session is hard to nail down for serialization. [16:43] Svante Schubert: Jos: Session is started by loading/starting a document. [16:43] Svante Schubert: Jos: There is no explicit session information, it is all external to the document [16:43] Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: OpenOffice stores application-dependent configuration item with name="ooo:view-settings" [16:43] Svante Schubert: If the user wants to have a hard cut, like this is the certain version of a contract [16:44] Svante Schubert: while this is more into version handling than session handling [16:45] Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: OpenOffice's ooo:view-settings: <config:config-item-set config:name="ooo:view-settings"><config:config-item config:name="ViewAreaTop" config:type="int">0</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="ViewAreaLeft" config:type="int">0</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="ViewAreaWidth" config:type="int">27324</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="ViewAreaHeight" config:type="int">15136</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="ShowRedlineChanges" config:type="boolean">true</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="InBrowseMode" config:type="boolean">false</config:config-item><config:config-item-map-indexed config:name="Views"><config:config-item-map-entry><config:config-item config:name="ViewId" config:type="string">view2</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="ViewLeft" config:type="int">12164</config:config-item><config :config -item config:name="ViewTop" config:type="int">6512</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="VisibleLeft" config:type="int">0</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="VisibleTop" config:type="int">0</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="VisibleRight" config:type="int">27323</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="VisibleBottom" config:type="int">15134</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="ZoomType" config:type="short">0</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="ViewLayoutColumns" config:type="short">0</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="ViewLayoutBookMode" config:type="boolean">false</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="ZoomFactor" config:type="short">150</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="IsSelectedFrame" config:type="boolean">false</con fig:conf ig-item></config:config-item-map-entry></config:config-item-map-indexed></config:config-item-set> [16:45] Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: sorry not well formatted [16:45] Svante Schubert: thx, Oliver [16:45] Svante Schubert: version information like having a mile stone would be interesting to users [16:45] Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: <config:config-item-set config:name="ooo:view-settings"><config:config-item config:name="ViewAreaTop" config:type="int">0</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="ViewAreaLeft" config:type="int">0</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="ViewAreaWidth" config:type="int">27324</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="ViewAreaHeight" config:type="int">15136</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="ShowRedlineChanges" config:type="boolean">true</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="InBrowseMode" config:type="boolean">false</config:config-item><config:config-item-map-indexed config:name="Views"><config:config-item-map-entry><config:config-item config:name="ViewId" config:type="string">view2</config:config-item><config:co nfig-it em config:name="ViewLeft" config:type="int">12164</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="ViewTop" config:type="int">6512</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="VisibleLeft" config:type="int">0</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="VisibleTop" config:type="int">0</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="VisibleRight" config:type="int">27323</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="VisibleBottom" config:type="int">15134</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="ZoomType" config:type="short">0</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="ViewLayoutColumns" config:type="short">0</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="ViewLayoutBookMode" config:type="boolean">false</config:config-item><config:config-item config:name="ZoomFactor" config:type="short">150</config:config-ite m>< ;config:config-item config:name="IsSelectedFrame" config:type="boolean">false</config:config-item></config:config-item-map-entry></config:config-item-map-indexed></config:config-item-set> [16:46] Svante Schubert: @Jos: Are cursros part of the
[16:46] Svante Schubert: Jos: Yes, they are, but in different namespace, they are removable [16:47] Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: There is a Version feature in OpenOffice - see Menu File - Versions [16:47] Svante Schubert: Jos: we can reuse users data from the meta.xml [16:48] Jos van den Oever: user data from meta.xml would require defining new keys in meta.xml [16:48] Jos van den Oever: if we store the serialized operations in the document, they can be tagged with milestones [16:49] Svante Schubert: Does versioning of documents have to be related to change-tracking? [16:50] Svante Schubert: Like if you refuse a certain change, you are breaking up my milestone [16:50] Svante Schubert: milestone as the version I sent to the customer [16:55] Svante Schubert: So homework is: how is versioning related to change-tracking in your applications! [16:55] Svante Schubert: byebye |
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