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Subject: Re: [office] ISO/IEC 26300
Jim, thank you very much for these clarifications. I think it would be very useful if the ISO26300:2006 would be available for download on the OASIS web site. Though the OpenDocument TC could provide it on its web page, I think it would be more appropriate if it would be available at the global OASIS web pages, where the OASIS standards are listed. Mary, do you think this is possible? Best regards Michael Mason, James David (MXM) wrote: > We can post it on both Ken's site and mine and not charge. OASIS, as the > originator, can post it and not charge. But JTC1 and ISO aren't in the > business of posting things; they're just not set up for that kind of > service. All they know about (!) is printing paper. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robin Cover [mailto:robin@oasis-open.org] > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:40 AM > To: Patrick Durusau > Cc: robert_weir@us.ibm.com; James Bryce Clark; Mary McRae; Michael > Brauer; odf-adoption@lists.oasis-open.org; office@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: Re: [office] ISO/IEC 26300 > > Hmmmm... I may have misunderstood the initial request to have the spec > posted "cost free". I assumed he meant: > > "Freely Available Standards" > http://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/fetch/2000/2489/Ittf_Home/Publicl > yAvailableStandards.htm > > per (e.g.,): > > Freely Available ISO Standards for BPX and Developers Gunther Stuhec, > SAP Blog > > Most of the ISO standards are copyrighted and ISO charges for the most > copies. It is possible to purchase it direclty by ISO or even the > related national standardization body, like DIN (German Standardization > Institute). The charge depends mostly on the pages or even size of the > standard. It is approximately 100 Swiss Francs per copy. However, in > accordance with ISO/IEC JTC 1 and the ISO and IEC Councils are a number > of standards freely available, which can be used for standardization > purposes. You'll find these freely available standard: (A) Freely > Available Standards provided by ISO, and (B) Freely Standards Download > provided by ANSI (American National Standards Institute). The Business > Process Expert (BPX) has the opportunity to get freely available ISO > standards, in where some of the playing a key part in reference models > and open distributed processing. Some of these ISO standards are: > (1) ISO/IEC 7498 - Open Systems Interconnection -- Basic Reference > Model; > (2) ISO/IEC 8613 - Open Document Architecture (ODA) and Interchange > Format; (3) ISO/IEC 8824 - Abstract Syntax Notification (ASN.1); > (4) ISO/IEC 9075 - Data Base Langauges - SQL; (5) ISO/IEC 10032 - > Reference Model of Data Management; (6) ISO/IEC 10746 - Open Distributed > Processing; (7) ISO/IEC 11179 - Metadata Registries (MDR); (8) ISO/IEC > 14662 - Open-edi reference model; (9) ISO/IEC 14977 - Syntactic > metalanguage; (10) ISO/IEC 15504 - Software Engineering - Process > assessment; (11) ISO/IEC 15944 - Business agreement semantic descriptive > techniques; (12) ISO/IEC 24824 - Generic applications of ASN.1: Fast Web > Services. In other words: If you need a copy of a specific ISO standard, > please have a look to the provided websites, before you'll buy one. If > you don't find the requested standard, please inform the ECO > International Standards group, before you buy a copy. > > https://weblogs.sdn.sap.com/pub/wlg/4469 > See also the site: > http://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/fetch/2000/2489/Ittf_Home/Publicl > yAvailableStandards.htm > > > > > On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, Patrick Durusau wrote: > >> Rob, >> >> Hmmm, can't say I have ever heard of a "cost free" standard out of > ISO. >> ISO has complained to Jim Mason about his posting final versions of SC >> 34 standards to his website. He does so on the basis that any activity > >> that the US Gov. participates in means the result is a royalty free >> publication. >> >> Since he is behind heavily guarded walls at a place that makes nuclear > >> weapons, ISO has not pressed the issue. ;-) >> >> I can ask Jim about posting the final version to one of his > webservers. >> Would that work for you? >> >> Hope you are looking forward to a great weekend! >> >> Patrick >> >> robert_weir@us.ibm.com wrote: >> >>> Good news, and thanks to Patrick, Michael and Jamie for all of your >>> hard work during this process. >>> >>> Is there anything additional we can do to make this specification >>> cost free in ISO? I've seen this done with other standards out of > JTC1. >>> Do you know how this is triggered? >>> >>> -Rob >>> >>> Patrick Durusau <patrick@durusau.net> wrote on 12/01/2006 08:17:11 > AM: >>>> Michael, >>>> >>>> Well, a bit early but should put a smile on everyone's face for >>>> the upcoming holiday season! >>>> >>>> Congratulations! >>>> >>>> Hope you are having a great day! (You have certainly made mine a >>> great one!) >>>> Patrick >>>> >>>> Michael Brauer wrote: >>>> >>>>> All: >>>>> >>>>> the status of ISO/IEC 26300 is now 60.60. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards >>>>> >>>>> Michael >>>>> >>>>> James Bryce Clark wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> As you may know, ISO has changed the visible status of >>> OpenDocument >>>>>> v1 as approved (ISO/IEC 26300) to correctly reflect its >>> International >>>>>> Status standard, "60.00" in its harmonized stage coding. This >>> can be >>>>>> seen by searching for "26300" in the ISO search function, after > >>>>>> selecting "Search options > ISO number" and "Items to show > >>>>>> Both", at >>>>>> > http://www.iso.org/iso/en/CatalogueListPage.CatalogueList?&scopelist=ALL > . >>>>>> >>>>>> Another way into this data is the following compound search >>> results >>>>>> URI: >>>>>> http://www.iso.org/iso/en/catsupport/StandardsQueryFormHandler. >>>> StandardsQueryFormHandler? >>>> >>> scope=ALL&keyword=&isoNumber=26300&sortOrder=ISO&title=true&search_t >>> ype=ISO&search_term=26300 >>>>>> >>>>>> A table of the stage codes appears here: >>>>>> http://www.iso.org/iso/en/widepages/stagetable.html >>>>>> >>>>>> When the IS is released for official publication in a few >>>>>> weeks, that status code will be upgraded to "60.60" to reflect >>>>>> the availability of copies for sale at the ISO web store. >>>>>> >>>>>> Likely our next topic, regarding ISO/IEC JTC1, will be what >>>>>> to advise them regarding v1.1 (which you've completed and are >>>>>> balloting now, congratulations) and v1.x/2.0. We've indicated >>>>>> that we plan to bring back appropriately stable revisions to >>>>>> JTC1. So the question will be which next version is >>>>>> "appropriately stable." Based on preliminary chats with >>>>>> several of you, it's my understanding is that >>>>>> v1.1 is unlikely to be suggested for resubmission. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind regards JBC >>>>>> >>>>>> ~ James Bryce Clark >>>>>> ~ Director of Standards Development, OASIS ~ >>>>>> jamie.clark@oasis-open.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Patrick Durusau >>>> Patrick@Durusau.net >>>> Chair, V1 - Text Processing: Office and Publishing Systems >>>> Interface Co-Editor, ISO 13250, Topic Maps -- Reference Model >>>> Member, Text Encoding Initiative Board of Directors, 2003-2005 >>>> >>>> Topic Maps: Human, not artificial, intelligence at work! >>>> >>>> >> >> -- >> Patrick Durusau >> Patrick@Durusau.net >> Chair, V1 - Text Processing: Office and Publishing Systems Interface >> Co-Editor, ISO 13250, Topic Maps -- Reference Model Member, Text >> Encoding Initiative Board of Directors, 2003-2005 >> >> Topic Maps: Human, not artificial, intelligence at work! >> >> >> -- Michael Brauer, Technical Architect Software Engineering StarOffice/OpenOffice.org Sun Microsystems GmbH Nagelsweg 55 D-20097 Hamburg, Germany michael.brauer@sun.com http://sun.com/staroffice +49 40 23646 500 http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS
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