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Subject: RE: [office] Discussion Requested: ODF <dc:creator> conflicts
Please read section 3 of my original note: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/200904/msg00000.html>. It's not clear to me that there is even such a thing as an authoritative XML Namespace for representing elements of the Dublin Core Element Set 1.1. Many xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" for binding a URI to a prefix have nothing to do with XML Namespaces. Instead they are a hack of the XML Namespace feature to provide an RDF CURI-aware processor a way to turn an attribute of CURI type into a URI. It's quite clear that Dublin Core terms have natural language semantics and not computer-formal ones, and that they expect those interpretations to be sustained, however the element is expressed using a data representation. The DCMI materials seem to be quite strict on that point. Yes of course, honoring of the DCMI interpretation cannot be mechanically confirmed: there is not any way to know what counts as the distinguishable expression of a name, let alone of the responsible entity, short of Semantic Web magic someday in a galaxy far away. The same holds for those other predefined <office:meta> elements, such as <meta:initial-creator> and <meta:printed-by> that are described as being names [sic] but for which Dublin Core is wisely not mentioned at all. I am only concerned about <dc:creator> and the ODF specification's binding to an alleged Dublin Core XML Namespace for which there is evidently no authority. Apparently DCMI does not lay claim to being one, the DCMI Namespace being a beast of quite different stripe. - Dennis PS: Does anyone know of any non-ODF international standards that have QNames for XML elements and attributes that are bound to local names of a namespace identified by URI "http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"? I'm curious how this practice started and what the precedent was for the ODF practice. -----Original Message----- From: robert_weir@us.ibm.com [mailto:robert_weir@us.ibm.com] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/200904/msg00003.html Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 13:23 To: office@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [office] Discussion Requested: ODF <dc:creator> conflicts Patrick Durusau <patrick@durusau.net> wrote on 04/01/2009 03:34:48 PM: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/200904/msg00002.html > > It seems to me to be a question of reciprocity, that is if we expect > others to follow our work in our namespace, then we really need to > extend that courtesy to others. > I have no problems with that. I'm just not seeing that we've said anything that is in conflict with Dublin Core. If there were a problem, I'd expect that Dennis or someone else could give us an XML fragment that was conformant ODF, but did not conform to Dublin Core. It would be good to elevate the discussion to those kinds of technical particulars rather than the current puffiness about rights and courtesies. -Rob
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