RE: [oic] virtual ODF interop fest ?

["Hanssens Bart" <Bart.Hanssens@fedict.be>]

Title: RE: [oic] virtual ODF interop fest ?

Hi,


Well, the http://www.oasis-open.org/who/interop_demo_policy.php
mentions interop fests (at the bottom of the page) as a somewhat
informal way to improve standards... (not to be confused with the
formal "interop demos")

I also like the idea of permanent plugfests (that's like having
continuous integration builds for software :-), but in addition
I think it would be good to have one big event once a year, or at
least one kick-off to get things started:

- this would draw the attention (= big red circle in agendas)
- and if the OIC members are actively involved during that peak
of test productivity (yes, I'm so naive), we could explain the
other participants the OASIS IPR rules and gently urge them to
send their remarks to the comment list like Dennis suggested
(eliminating any dicussion on IPR, and probably after doing
some summarizing or cleansing)


Anyway, regardless of "permanent" or "once", I hope this would
be of interest to people who may not be interested in the rest
of our hard work.


Best regards,

Bart


PS: And I do promise not to sing, regardless the theme song :-)
Although "why don't you try me (Sara Beth/Frankie Miller)"
comes in mind. Oh well, as long as we don't end up in the
"Land of Confusion (Genesis)"




-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamilton@acm.org]
Sent: Thu 2/19/2009 11:35 PM
To: robert_weir@us.ibm.com; oic@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [oic] virtual ODF interop fest ?

This is an intriguing discussion.

I like the permanent floating plugfest idea.  We can set it to music.  Oh,
right, "Guys and Dolls."

I'm not sure how we get it to work with OASIS rules and registration
requirements.  Maybe we could use the under-used oic-comment list or use the
OpenDocument.xml.org forum too.  (Baffled and will stop speculating ... .)

Exciting.

 - Dennis

PS: As far as I have been able to tell, anyone can use the oic Chat.  It
would also be great if easy public participation were available. 


-----Original Message-----
From: robert_weir@us.ibm.com [mailto:robert_weir@us.ibm.com]
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/200902/msg00055.html
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 13:14
To: oic@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [oic] virtual ODF interop fest ?

Interesting idea.  You could also make it a "permanent plugfest" if the
OIC TC could come up with a single good interop test document each week or
every other week.  Announce it to the mailing list (and we could have
OASIS create a new mailing list for this) and everyone works on that test
document for that week (or two week period).  Maybe we take turns
proposing a test document.  Since the pace is slower, communications via
the mailing list would be fine.  You wouldn't need a chat service.

This approach would be require less effort I think than coordinating a
24-hour global effort.

-Rob

"Hanssens Bart" <Bart.Hanssens@fedict.be> wrote on 02/19/2009 03:00:35 PM:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/200902/msg00052.html
>
>
> Maybe I'm going way to fast here, but I'd like to have your opinion
> on this idea, since materializing it would require a considerable
> effort and a few weeks (or months) time.
>
> Inspired by the XAdES plugfests and open source project bugfests,
> I'm dreaming of organizing regular ODF interop fests :-)
>
> Given the current state of the economy, global warming etc,
> timezones, jet lag etc... a virtual workshop would be more feasible
> For example, a 24h interop run every 6 months, lead by OIC members
> but with participants from all interested parties (both
> OASIS and non-OASIS members). Say, first week of May, and the next
> one in October / November.
>
> Vendors / organizations could even organize local workshops or
> integrate this into their (product or other) events, scaling up the
> number of participants. The interop run could be started in, say,
> Asia, passing the bucket to the Middle-East after business hours and
> so on (people are free to participate as long as they want: one
> hour, 4 hours, ... whatever).
> Afterwards, there's some cleaning up and summarizing to do.
>
>
> This would require
>
> - a chat service (plain old IRC sounds good)
> - a website where people can sign up (perhaps with their geo-
> coordinates, so we can create a googlemap or something similar)
> - a publicly available SVN server / mailing list, so that non-OASIS
> members can participate (perhaps a sourceforge project ?)
> - at least one test case that can be passed on
> As a gimmick, we could for instance start an ODF cookbook: fire up
> your favorite editor, add a page with your favorite recipe (this
> might includ bulleted lists, an image, some headings, ToC etc). This
> can be sent to the next tester, using another editor and create
> another version of the document and so on.
> - in addition, we could invite people to bring a few of their own
documents
> (IIRC, Rob already kindly offered his expertise on the requirements
> of such test cases, after the work on the "state of interop" draft)
> - participants willing to send in their final documents / bug
> reports to the OIC-comment list
> - perhaps a waiver from vendors (some EULA's might prevent this kind
> of activity, but IANAL :-)
> - a lot of publicity :-)
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Bart