OIC TC 2009-12-02 Meeting Minutes - UPDATE #1

["Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>]

Correction:
  In the list of Members Absent,
           Peter Junge, Beijing Redflag Chinese 2000 Software
  is removed.  
           Peter Junge, Individual 
  remains. 

-----Original Message [corrected] -----
From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamilton@acm.org] 
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 22:23
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Subject: OIC TC 2009-12-02 Meeting Minutes


OIC TC 2009-12-02 COORDINATION CALL

Date:  Wednesday, 2 December 2009
Time:  14:30 - 15:30 UT

1. LOGISTICS
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The chat room: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/oic (doesn't count as attendance)

The call-in numbers: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/200903/msg00017.html 
Meeting agendas also provide the pass codes and the call-in numbers:
<http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/200912/msg00001.html>

The action items (log-in required):
  http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oic/members/action_items.php

1.1 ROLL CALL AND QUORUM CHECK
The quorum consisted of 6 of the 11 Voting Members (6/11 required).

    MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE

    * Bart Hanssens, Fedict (Chair)
    * Donald Harbison, IBM
    * Mingfei Jia, IBM
    * Andreas Guelzow, Individual
    * Dennis Hamilton, Individual (Secretary)
      Cherie Ekholm, Microsoft
    * Louis Suarez-Potts, Sun Microsystems

      [* = Voting Member at start of meeting (6)
       + = becoming Voting Member at conclusion of meeting (0)]

    MEMBERS ABSENT

      Charles Schulz, Ars Aperta
      Xiaohong Dong, Beijing Redflag Chinese 2000 Software
      Shuran Hua, Beijing Redflag Chinese 2000 Software
      Alex Wang, Beijing Sursen International 
      Jeremy Allison, Google Inc.
    * Robert Weir, IBM
      Peter Junge, Individual
      Thorsten Zachmann, Individual
      Doug Mahugh, Microsoft
      Eric Patterson, Microsoft
      Alan Clark, Novell
    * Andrew Rist, Oracle
      Tom Rabon, Red Hat
      Mathias Bauer, Sun Microsystems
      Michael Brauer, Sun Microsystems
    * Bernd Eilers, Sun Microsystems
    * Daniel Rentz, Sun Microsystems
    * Svante Schubert, Sun Microsystems
      Jerry Smith, US Department of Defense

      [* = Voting Member at start and end of meeting (5)
       - = Voting Member becoming non-voting Member at end of meeting (0)]

1.2 ACCEPTANCE OF PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES
    Minutes for the 2009-11-18 meeting were not available for approval.


1.3 ACCEPTANCE OF TODAY'S AGENDA.
   <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/200912/msg00001.html>
   The agenda was approved without objection.



2. STATUS OF ACTION ITEMS

#0001 OpenDocument Fellowship/Intel Contact. No report.

#0015 Template Scenarios.  Dennis Hamilton reported.  This work is still backed-up behind #0032.  Now that #0032 is being finalized, there will be input on this action by the next meeting.

#0026-0027.  No report.  Cherie will check at Microsoft to see what the status and next steps are, if any.

#0032 Repair of Wiki Update Breakage.  Dennis Hamilton reported that all content has been repaired, along with discovery of a case that the wiki 1.6 upgrader skips, separate from the already-known breakage.  The top level will be reconnected and the material opened up after a brief review and any final touch-ups for the entrance to the ODF 1.1 Specification Analysis.

#0033 Best Practices for Document Authors.  No report.  There have been no updates by anyone to the wiki pages.

#0034 Interoperability Demos and Videos.  Louis expected there to be something at Orvieto from the OpenDocument Fellowship.  Louis will follow-up with Marino about what there is and what is happening.  Louis is still interested in making something happen with regard to videos.

#0035 Interop Fest at FOSDEM 2010.  Bart Hanssens summarized the limitations on getting rooms.  There will not be an ODF room.  Bart is awaiting details and looking to see if there could be a combined room with OO.o developers.

3. STATE OF INTEROPERABILITY REPORT
   The ballot to approve cd02 rev01 as cd03 passed.
   <http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oic/ballot.php?id=1801>

   Bart will do the production steps to issue the document as cd03 and in the required forms.

   We will conduct an e-Ballot on taking cd03 to Public Review.

   Cherie Ekholm raised some questions about the purpose of the document and the level of detail it provides.  It was reviewed how this is meant to set a baseline for production of more-comprehensive documents on a periodic basis.  Further discussion, comment, and suggestions are welcome.


4. ODF DEFINITION OF FEATURES
   The identification of document features at something better than element-and-attribute granularity was discussed in the 2009-11-18 meeting.  Svante Schubert has started discussion based on the ODF 1.2 Part 3 cd01 now in Public Review.
   <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/200911/msg00040.html>
   There needs to be more discussion on the mailing list.


5. ODF 1.1 INTEROPERABILITY PROFILES, JIRA Tickets
<http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/OIC>

Dennis raised a concern over how people will refer to the profile and the profile portions that they implement, etc.  Louis followed-up that it is a big deal to establish agreement on the profile items and to have some way to express the level at which the profile is supported (with percentages used by way of example).

It was proposed that we would have discussion on the list with the aim of having something solid by the next plugfest.  There was also discussion about what kind of graded lists there might be, and having a way to confirm support, provide test documents for determining profile satisfaction, etc.

6. ROUNDTABLE

Louis mentioned the call for contributions for the Japan 2010 Accessibility Symposium being held at Kobe University on Tuesday, 2010-03-16, <http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Japan+2010+Accessibility+Symposium>.  Louis also described an emphasis open-source software for solutions and Dennis said he didn't detect any such emphasis apart from the announcement appearing on the Fluid site.

  
7. FUTURE MEETING PLANNING

The next meeting is a conference call on December 16.  

We should discuss on the list and at the next meeting whether or not to have a December 30 meeting.




Respectfully submitted,

 Dennis E. Hamilton