OIC TC 2010-05-19 Meeting Minutes

["Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>]

OIC COORDINATION CALL
Date:  Wednesday 19 May 2010
Time:  13:30 - 14:30 UT

1. LOGISTICS
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The chat room: <http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/oic>
 (doesn't count for attendance)

The call-in numbers: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/200903/msg00017.html>
Meeting agendas also provide the pass codes and the call-in numbers:
<http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201005/msg00004.html>

The action items (log-in required):
<http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oic/members/action_items.php>


1.1 ROLL CALL AND QUORUM CHECK
9 of 9 Voting members attended, satisfying the 5 of 9 requirement for a quorum.

    MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE

    * Bart Hanssens, Fedict (Chair)
    * Donald Harbison, IBM
    * Mingfei Jia, IBM
    + Robert Weir, IBM
    * Andreas Guelzow, Individual
    * Dennis Hamilton, Individual (Secretary)
    * Cherie Ekholm, Microsoft  
    * Bernd Eilers, Oracle Corporation
    + Daniel Rentz, Oracle Corporation
    * Andrew Rist, Oracle Corporation
    = Svante Schubert, Oracle Corporation
    * Louis Suarez-Potts, Oracle Corporation

      [* = Voting Member at start of meeting (9)
       + = becoming Voting Member at conclusion of meeting (2)
       = = Persistent Non-Voting Member (1)]

    MEMBERS ABSENT

      Charles Schulz, Ars Aperta
      Alex Wang, Beijing Sursen International 
      Jeremy Allison, Google Inc.
      Peter Junge, Individual
      Thorsten Zachmann, Individual
      Doug Mahugh, Microsoft
      Eric Patterson, Microsoft
      Alan Clark, Novell
    = Michael Brauer, Oracle Corporation
      Tom Rabon, Red Hat
      Jerry Smith, US Department of Defense

      [* = Voting Member at start and end of meeting (0)
       - = Voting Member becoming non-voting Member at end of meeting (0)
       = = Persistent Non-Voting Member (1)]

1.2 ACCEPTANCE OF PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES

Minutes for the 2010-05-05 Meeting, approved without objection 
<http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201005/msg00002.html>


1.3 ACCEPTANCE OF TODAY'S AGENDA: approved without objection
<http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201005/msg00004.html>



2. STATUS OF ACTION ITEMS

#0015 Template Scenarios.  Still on hold.

#0026 There is work in progress with a target for the Brussels Plugfest in October

#0027 CLOSED - redundant with 0026

#0033 Best Practices for Document Authors.  Rob proposes to make a standalone Authoring Guidelines document as a standalone Committee Specification.  Thinks of it as a small document, probably not with screenshots, though having any of those would expand it.  Brief discussion of the value of screenshots versus their implementation-specific nature

#0034 Interop Demo Videos.  In progress.  There was some discussion between Bart and Louis on having some connection with the Interoperability Demo that will be coming up for ODF 1.2 implementations.

#0038 Clean OTT specification template.  Work in progress.

#0039 Determine the status of Interoperability Profile CDs that were approved and not posted to OASIS site.  Bart reports that we did approve a CD02 but Mary requested changes and they would require a new review/approval.  Bart proposes to make an update of the based on any resolved JIRA issues and remarks that Svante says he has coming, since we have to make changes to satisfy OASIS anyhow.  

#0040 Plans for next 6 months.  Bart reviewed some prospective focus areas and false starts.  This will be on the agenda for the next (June 2) meeting.

3. STATE OF INTEROPERABILITY REPORT (60-day public review ended on 2010-05-08)
Rob has asked questions of Mary about how to finish up but we have had no response yet.  We considered creating an editor committee in order to make Rob a JIRA editor so he can advance workflow of the JIRA issues on "State of Interoperability."
  If Rob doesn't have JIRA editor rights when he returns from vacation, he will propose resolutions on the list so that one of the editors can advance the issues.
  This difficulty and need to authorize JIRA controls separately raised the question about who actually has commit rights to the SVN repository beside Dennis and Bart, who have used it.
  In the chat room, Svante indicated that he wanted JIRA-issue editing capability also.


4. ODF 1.1 INTEROPERABILITY PROFILE
Bart is working on this and is also expecting some work from Svante.  Cherie said she has some concerns about the focus of the document.  Bart asked if there were other concerns and Dennis repeated that he hasn't changed his view that the document is over-reaching, but he is not going to filibuster about it.  
  Bart talked about perhaps having some sort of system for advisories rather than an extensive profile document, and perhaps this could be an approach that works quickly.
  Rob suggested that we look at other TCs that do work on conformance and testing.  We can consider this along with the 6-mongh-focus discussion too.


5. OASIS ODF 1.2 INTEROP DEMO
<http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201005/msg00003.html>

Don Harbison reported on the call for participation and the responses so far.  Symphony and Novell have asked to participate so far.  The proposed venue is the OpenOffice.org 2010 Conference in Budapest at the beginning of September.  The timeline is meant to parallel the Public Review process for ODF 1.2.

The invitation is for at least three OASIS members who have implementations of ODF 1.2 to come together and identify interoperability scenarios to demonstrate.  

There was discussion of scenario partners who could be non-OASIS members that provide real-world context.  Public agencies were an example.  

OASIS Interop Demos must cover their own expenses, so there will be fees based on the plan and budget that is created.  

Don is recruiting the initial team and wants to convene on May 26 to start agreeing on the implementations, how to deal with the requirement for independent implementations, create a timeline and proceed in a disciplined way.  It was observed that KOffice would like to participate, but they have no members in OASIS at this point.

There was further talk about different candidates for implementation, including SDKs and toolkits.  We speculated about Adobe, Google, and Apple.  Cherie said that Microsoft has nothing to say at this point.

6. ROUND TABLE

Bart is working on the October Plugfest in Brussels and will be providing updates about that.

Don Harbison mentioned that there is a call for participation at OOo 2010 (deadline June 2) and an ODF track is being offered.

Rob has a podcast on the OpenDocument.xml site.

Rob provided an update on the ODF 1.2 Public Review that is being put together.


7. FUTURE MEETING PLANNING
The next meeting will be on 2010-06-2 and at the same time (1330-1430 UT).  



Respectfully submitted,

 - Dennis E. Hamilton