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Subject: OIC TC 2011-04-06 Meeting Minutes
OIC COORDINATION CALL Date: Wednesday 06 April 2011 Time: 13:30 - 14:30 UT 1. LOGISTICS --------- The chat room: <http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/oic <http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/oic> (doesn't count for attendance) The call-in numbers: Meeting agendas also provide the pass codes and the commonly-used call-in numbers: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201104/msg00000.html> The action items (log-in required): 1.1 ROLL CALL AND QUORUM CHECK 6 of 8 Voting Members were present and the 5 of 8 quorum requirement was satisfied. MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE * Bart Hanssens, Fedict (Chair) * Robert Weir, IBM + Andreas Guelzow, Individual * Dennis Hamilton, Individual (Secretary) * Don Harbison, IBM * Cherie Ekholm, Microsoft * Bernd Eilers, Oracle Corporation = Svante Schubert, Oracle Corporation [* = Voting Member at start of meeting (6) + = becoming Voting Member at conclusion of meeting (1) = = Persistent Non-Voting Member (1)] MEMBERS ABSENT Charles Schulz, Ars Aperta Alex Wang, Beijing Sursen International Jeremy Allison, Google Inc. - Mingfei Jia, IBM Peter Junge, Individual - Louis Suarez-Potts, Individual Doug Mahugh, Microsoft Eric Patterson, Microsoft Kazmer Koleszar, MultiRacio Alan Clark, Novell = Michael Brauer, Oracle Corporation Daniel Rentz, Oracle Corporation Andrew Rist, Oracle Corporation Tom Rabon, Red Hat Jerry Smith, US Department of Defense [* = Voting Member at start and end of meeting (0) - = Voting Member becoming non-voting Member at end of meeting (2) = = Persistent Non-Voting Member (1)] 1.2 PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES Minutes for the 2011-03-09 Meeting, approved without objection: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201103/msg00004.html> There were no comments on the notes from the 2011-03-23 informal (no-quorum) meeting: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201103/msg00011.html> 1.3 TODAY'S AGENDA, approved without objection: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201104/msg00000.html> The agenda structure was used for the subsequent informal discussion. 2. STATUS OF ACTION ITEMS #0015 Template Scenarios. In progress with nothing uploaded yet. #0034 Interop Demo Videos. Bart reports still in progress with actions he needs to take. #0041 Battery of ODF 1.2 Assessment Documents. Rob reports there is more to come. 3. DELIVERABLES 3.1 ODF 1.2 Test Documents On review of what there is for assessment documents, we identified the OpenFormula checks on Basis calculations and YEARFRAC, <http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oic/email/archives/201010/msg00039.html>. There is also a set of Group 1 OpenFormula checks based on the test entries that were used in the OpenFormula working drafts (but not the specification). If that can't be found on the OIC site, Rob will upload it. Bart and Svante talked about tests for RDF, and Svante gave a sketch of the foundation test process he is having reviewed internally before contributing to the OIC. (Svante will be on vacation for the next two calls, so we may have to wait for that.) Bart is going to see if the digital signature solution that he has are aligned with ODF 1.2 or if he needs to make updates, then recreate his test files. There is no additional work on the Microsoft test documents, though Cherie expects there will be updates as they work on ODF 1.2. Rob is exploring for basic tests to see if all of the various ODF 1.2 documents can be opened and recognized. There was discussion of areas where there was not coverage, such as the database documents and accessibility provisions. There is also not much change-tracking coverage, although that is not new in ODF 1.2. 3.2 Best Practices of Authors. Rob reviewed that there is a template and an old wiki page, <http://wiki.oasis-open.org/oic/EndUser>. Another source is a presentation given by Rob at an earlier Plugfest on authoring for interoperability: <http://www.robweir.com/blog/publications/Authoring4Interop.pdf> We wondered if there were further sources. Bart asked if the experience Dennis reported about difficulty of preserving pagination was relevant. Dennis thought that he did not think so, although it would be interesting to know if there were template arrangements and style definitions that could avoid such difficulties. We talked about the use of common fonts and metrics, such as the basic TrueType fonts (Arial, Times New Roman, and Courier New) that have crept into use, or the 12-14 fonts that work across PDF generally. Considering that there might be some way to limit these with templates, led to wondering if there was other work on templates that were considered safe for creation of interoperable documents. Dennis thought there was some work related to SC34 WG5 on that, having seen some presentations from Fraunhofer Institute on that at a London DII event. Bart pointed out that there are places where visual fidelity matches a great deal, as in preparation of presentations. Rob suggested there are accessibility issues that come up in this regard, since navigating to specific pages using assistive interfaces may not make sense. We ended up considering that there is a spectrum of acceptability, starting with just do something nice enough to exercising control and fidelity down to the pica/point. 4. ROUND TABLE 4.1 Rob reported that the ODF TC has approved the ODF 1.2 Committee Specification 01. The procedural requirements for processing that CS01 as a Candidate OASIS Standard are underway and we should see steps in that direction in the coming weeks. 4.2 Rob reported that the consideration of change-tracking proposals is underway, with one approach presented on Tuesday and with more scheduled for the next two subcommittee meetings. 4.3 Bart provided an update on planning for the next Plugfest. The current target is for July in Germany. The host and venue are not firm at this point. [Added Note: The next meeting of SC34 working groups is in Berlin around June 18-22. The June 23-24 Thursday and Friday would be interesting for a Plugfest.] 5. FUTURE MEETING PLANNING The next regularly-scheduled OIC Teleconference Meeting is on 2011-04-20 at 1330-1430 UT. Respectfully submitted, Dennis E. Hamilton, OIC TC Secretary |
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