Re: [oic] List style resolution

[Svante Schubert <svante.schubert@gmail.com>]

Hi Dennis,

Thank you for the references.
I will look into it and adapt my test file handling.

Best regards,
Svante


On 01.02.2013 20:27, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> Svante,
>
> You can use the OIC TC Subversion repository for test documents and
> description of the tests.
>
> As an example, here's a resilience set, 
>
> <https://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/svn/oic/TestSuite/trunk/odf12/
> NameSpaceResilience/> 
>
> and the report of its usage,
>
> <https://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/svn/oic/TestSuite/trunk/odf12/
> NameSpaceResilience/NameSpaceResilience-Results.htm>
>
> that could stand some updating since 2011-08.
>
> It is my habit to also include a text file that describes what's there,
> usually with the folder name:
> <https://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/svn/oic/TestSuite/trunk/odf12/
> NameSpaceResilience/NameSpaceResilience.txt>.
>
> I see I have some undocumented work-in-progress folders too.  Now that my
> January crunch has ended, I intend to become more involved in these and
> related resiliency testing.
>
>  - Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oic@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:oic@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf
> Of Svante Schubert
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 02:16
> To: 'OIC TC List'
> Subject: [oic] List style resolution
>
> The resolution of list styles is not easy to understand in the ODF 1.2
> specification. I have just written a mail to the ODF TC to suggest on an
> improvement (see
> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/201302/msg00000.html).
>
> For us the interoperability of ODF applications using lists is of interest.
> I created a test document that I would like to share with the OIC TC and
> suggest to discuss on the next ODF Plugfest.
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/49473263/ListStyleResolution.odt
>
> The test document is a valid ODF document that I have manually adapted to
> test all possible style references for a one and two level list - this could
> be done for up to 10 levels, but the change to find a new behavior is low
> and I try to avoid such huge efforts in my spare time. ;)
>
> In the case when all possible references are set the following is applied:
>
>
> 1.	The highest list references to a style of upper case roman
> numbering, its list item to upper case alphabet numbering.
> 2.	The second list references to a style of lower case roman numbering,
> its list item to lower case alphabet numbering.
> 3.	The paragraph style references to an image list with red bullets and
> should be triggered, when no list style is given elsewhere.
> 	
>
> If you open the test document in your favorite ODF application, you will
> realize list labels within the test, that are not mentioned above.
> The reason is that ODF defines the implementation defined behavior, when a
> list has no style at all.
> What ODF user using multiple ODF application could ever desire such a thing?
> Currently Calligra uses a numbering list, MSO15 uses no list and latest
> AOO/LO uses bullet lists.
> Even if not every application would claim that their behavior should become
> the new default behavior, the two other applications need to differentiate
> old ODF document (where an old default list had being used) and new ODF
> versions, where a default list might be defined. 
> This can only work, by a differentiator like the version attribute.
>
> Another topic would be how to minimize the problem resulting from an ODF
> application that writes out wrong ODF. For instance, if one ODF application
> within a working process involving multiple ODF applications has switched
> the colors red and green. How can this damage be undone?
>
> PS: There has been a preliminary draft of the tests document above, that
> might be of interest as well:
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/49473263/ListStyleResolution-PreliminaryDraft.odt
> This document only had a few possibilities of list style references, before
> I realized I needed to test all combinations for at least two levels. But in
> addition it tested @text:start-vale and @text:continue-list and showed
> interesting layout behavior in some ODF applications, when there is a
> heading in a list, a heading with not style, but only outline level and
> there are two paragraphs/headings in a single list item. This latter ODF
> scenario is useful, when there are two list items in a document each with a
> paragraph using distinct styles for instance first using green, second a red
> background. If the user has the cursor in front of the label of the red and
> press backspace, the label vanishes. When being saved, ODF now allows to
> move both paragraphs into a single list, which is for instance not allowed
> by OOXML.
>
> PPS: The whole testing was triggered by some discussion on our last
> change-tracking call, where we realized that headings, lists and paragraphs
> are just paragraphs with different properties. Which is useful as they are
> often transformed to one another. For full discussion log, see
> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-collab/201301/msg00013.html
>
> Best regards,
> Svante
>
>