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Subject: RE: [plcs-dex] Template: assigning_realized_resource was referencing_resource_as_realized
We have developed a configuration management tool for dexlib. It is undergoing testing. It will be used to manage the release of the templates etc. before they are submitted to OASIS Regards Rob ------------------------------------------- Rob Bodington Eurostep Limited Web Page: http://www.eurostep.com http://www.share-a-space.com Email: Rob.Bodington@eurostep.com Phone: +44 (0)1452 810 960 Mobile: +44 (0)7796 176 401 Skype: rbodington Eurostep Limited. Registered in England and Wales No.03049099 Registered Office: Cwttir Lane, St. Asaph, Denbighshire LL17 0LQ. -----Original Message----- From: Per-Åke Ling [mailto:per-ake.ling@eurostep.com] Sent: 22 October 2007 10:56 To: Leif Gyllström Cc: Steve Yates; Rob Bodington; plcs-dex@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [plcs-dex] Template: assigning_realized_resource was referencing_resource_as_realized I believe Steves idea of a "maturity level" on the capabilities (or templates if finer granularity is needed) is not only a good idea, it is actually necessary. I also think we are getting to a point where we have to reopen the discussion on version management (or, in a larger scope, CM) for DEXLIB. One of the problems for DNV in Norway was the fact that DEXLIB was a moving target, and there were no baselines or organized releases with unambiguous identification. To address Steves concern with implementation: with proper version management in combination with "maturity level" or some other review process, it would be possible as an implementor to asses the risks with regard to coding. I.e. a reasonably mature template would imply that only minor changes will happen, so that coding would be relatively risk-free, and only adjustments would be expected. I know that there has been discussions on version management et al with respect to RDL, but to my knowledge not with respect to DEXLIB as a whole (at least not to the same degree). I firmly believe this needs to addressed sooner, not later. It is very hard to tack on CM after the fact. Regards, Per-Åke Leif Gyllström wrote: > Steve > > If don't want to take any risks, then yes ! (at least this is my opinion) > > Regards > > Leif > > ________________________________ > > From: Steve Yates [mailto:steve.yates@eurostep.com] > Sent: den 22 oktober 2007 10:46 > To: Leif Gyllström; Rob Bodington; plcs-dex@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: RE: [plcs-dex] Template: assigning_realized_resource was referencing_resource_as_realized > > > > OK, > > > > So we should wait for the review process to be complete before coding any of the templates? > > > > Steve > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Steve Yates > > Senior Consultant > > Tel: +44 1745 582008 > > Fax: +44 1745 585556 > > Mobile: +44 7795 563102 > > E-Mail: Steve.Yates@Eurostep.com <mailto:Steve.Yates@Eurostep.com> > > Web: www.eurostep.com <http://www.eurostep.com/> > > > > Eurostep Limited. Registered in England and Wales No.03049099 > > Registered Office: Cwttir Lane, St. Asaph, Denbighshire LL17 0LQ. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ________________________________ > > From: Leif Gyllström [mailto:Leif.Gyllstrom@sat.saabgroup.com] > Sent: 22 October 2007 09:45 > To: Steve Yates; Rob Bodington; plcs-dex@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: RE: [plcs-dex] Template: assigning_realized_resource was referencing_resource_as_realized > > > > All > > > > In my mind the review process solves this problem (at least to certain extent) > > > > Regards > > > > Leif > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Steve Yates [mailto:steve.yates@eurostep.com] > Sent: den 22 oktober 2007 10:34 > To: Leif Gyllström; Rob Bodington; plcs-dex@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: RE: [plcs-dex] Template: assigning_realized_resource was referencing_resource_as_realized > > Hi Rob, > > > > I have no objection to this one, but in principle I do have a concern. In this particular case, no effort has gone into implementing this Template in real code. If it had, then that some rework would have been required, which would have needed funding. > > In the AP203/AP214 arena, there was particular dismay amongst the software vendors when changes of this form came up, leading in the end to them refusing to implement anything that had not reached ISO IS status, i.e. would not change. This may be something to bear in mind as more implementations of AP239, especially those using the templates, come into being. > > > > One way of mitigating this may be to have a maturity indicator on the Template, to give a feeling of how likely it is to change, and thus how "safe" it is to put into code. > > > > Cheers > > > > Steve > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Steve Yates > > Senior Consultant > > Tel: +44 1745 582008 > > Fax: +44 1745 585556 > > Mobile: +44 7795 563102 > > E-Mail: Steve.Yates@Eurostep.com <mailto:Steve.Yates@Eurostep.com> > > Web: www.eurostep.com <http://www.eurostep.com/> > > > > Eurostep Limited. Registered in England and Wales No.03049099 > > Registered Office: Cwttir Lane, St. Asaph, Denbighshire LL17 0LQ. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ________________________________ > > From: Leif Gyllström [mailto:Leif.Gyllstrom@sat.saabgroup.com] > Sent: 22 October 2007 09:23 > To: Rob Bodington; plcs-dex@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: RE: [plcs-dex] Template: assigning_realized_resource was referencing_resource_as_realized > > > > Fine with me > > > > Regards > > > > Leif > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Rob Bodington [mailto:rob.bodington@eurostep.com] > Sent: den 22 oktober 2007 10:15 > To: plcs-dex@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: [plcs-dex] Template: assigning_realized_resource was referencing_resource_as_realized > > Hi > > The template referencing_resource_as_realized has been renamed assigning_realized_resource > > This is in response to an issue raised against it and to align it with the template assigning_required_resource. > > > > At this stage, the template referencing_resource_as_realized has been deprecated rather than deleted. > > > > Unless there are any objections, I propose to go ahead with the renaming and delete referencing_resource_as_realized > > Regards > Rob > > ------------------------------------------- > Rob Bodington > Eurostep Limited > Web Page: http://www.eurostep.com <http://www.eurostep.com/> http://www.share-a-space.com <http://www.share-a-space.com/> > Email: Rob.Bodington@eurostep.com > Phone: +44 (0)1452 810 960 > Mobile: +44 (0)7796 176 401 > Skype: rbodington > > Eurostep Limited. Registered in England and Wales No.03049099 > > Registered Office: Cwttir Lane, St. Asaph, Denbighshire LL17 0LQ. > > > >
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