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Subject: RE: [plcs-dex] Template: assigning_realized_resource was referencing_resource_as_realized
Thanks Sean, In my opinion, the templates fall into Impact rating 2, probability ratings 1-3, thus making them "Mature" or "Maturing"... Most of the established Templates being "Mature". So I guess the risk is small :) Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Yates Senior Consultant Tel: +44 1745 582008 Fax: +44 1745 585556 Mobile: +44 7795 563102 E-Mail: Steve.Yates@Eurostep.com Web: www.eurostep.com Eurostep Limited. Registered in England and Wales No.03049099 Registered Office: Cwttir Lane, St. Asaph, Denbighshire LL17 0LQ. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -----Original Message----- > From: Barker, Sean (UK) [mailto:Sean.Barker@baesystems.com] > Sent: 22 October 2007 11:20 > To: Rob Bodington; Per-Åke Ling; Leif Gyllström > Cc: Steve Yates; plcs-dex@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: RE: [plcs-dex] Template: assigning_realized_resource was > referencing_resource_as_realized > > > Attached a note on maturity rating. > > Sean Barker > 0117 302 8184 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rob Bodington [mailto:rob.bodington@eurostep.com] > > Sent: 22 October 2007 11:06 > > To: Per-Åke Ling; Leif Gyllström > > Cc: Steve Yates; plcs-dex@lists.oasis-open.org > > Subject: RE: [plcs-dex] Template: assigning_realized_resource > > was referencing_resource_as_realized > > > > > > *** WARNING *** > > > > This mail has originated outside your organization, either > > from an external partner or the Global Internet. > > Keep this in mind if you answer this message. > > > > We have developed a configuration management tool for dexlib. > > It is undergoing testing. > > It will be used to manage the release of the templates etc. > > before they are submitted to OASIS > > > > Regards > > Rob > > ------------------------------------------- > > Rob Bodington > > Eurostep Limited > > Web Page: http://www.eurostep.com http://www.share-a-space.com > > Email: Rob.Bodington@eurostep.com > > Phone: +44 (0)1452 810 960 > > Mobile: +44 (0)7796 176 401 > > Skype: rbodington > > Eurostep Limited. Registered in England and Wales No.03049099 > > Registered Office: Cwttir Lane, St. Asaph, Denbighshire LL17 0LQ. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Per-Åke Ling [mailto:per-ake.ling@eurostep.com] > > Sent: 22 October 2007 10:56 > > To: Leif Gyllström > > Cc: Steve Yates; Rob Bodington; plcs-dex@lists.oasis-open.org > > Subject: Re: [plcs-dex] Template: assigning_realized_resource > > was referencing_resource_as_realized > > > > I believe Steves idea of a "maturity level" on the > > capabilities (or templates if finer granularity is needed) is > > not only a good idea, it is actually necessary. > > > > I also think we are getting to a point where we have to > > reopen the discussion on version management (or, in a larger > > scope, CM) for DEXLIB. > > One of the problems for DNV in Norway was the fact that > > DEXLIB was a moving target, and there were no baselines or > > organized releases with unambiguous identification. > > > > To address Steves concern with implementation: with proper > > version management in combination with "maturity level" or > > some other review process, it would be possible as an > > implementor to asses the risks with regard to coding. I.e. a > > reasonably mature template would imply that only minor > > changes will happen, so that coding would be relatively > > risk-free, and only adjustments would be expected. > > > > I know that there has been discussions on version management > > et al with respect to RDL, but to my knowledge not with > > respect to DEXLIB as a whole (at least not to the same degree). > > > > I firmly believe this needs to addressed sooner, not later. > > It is very hard to tack on CM after the fact. > > > > Regards, > > Per-Åke > > > > Leif Gyllström wrote: > > > Steve > > > > > > If don't want to take any risks, then yes ! (at least this is my > > > opinion) > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Leif > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: Steve Yates [mailto:steve.yates@eurostep.com] > > > Sent: den 22 oktober 2007 10:46 > > > To: Leif Gyllström; Rob Bodington; plcs-dex@lists.oasis-open.org > > > Subject: RE: [plcs-dex] Template: assigning_realized_resource was > > > referencing_resource_as_realized > > > > > > > > > > > > OK, > > > > > > > > > > > > So we should wait for the review process to be complete > > before coding any of the templates? > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -------------- > > > > > > Steve Yates > > > > > > Senior Consultant > > > > > > Tel: +44 1745 582008 > > > > > > Fax: +44 1745 585556 > > > > > > Mobile: +44 7795 563102 > > > > > > E-Mail: Steve.Yates@Eurostep.com <mailto:Steve.Yates@Eurostep.com> > > > > > > Web: www.eurostep.com <http://www.eurostep.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > Eurostep Limited. Registered in England and Wales No.03049099 > > > > > > Registered Office: Cwttir Lane, St. Asaph, Denbighshire LL17 0LQ. > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -------------- > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: Leif Gyllström [mailto:Leif.Gyllstrom@sat.saabgroup.com] > > > Sent: 22 October 2007 09:45 > > > To: Steve Yates; Rob Bodington; plcs-dex@lists.oasis-open.org > > > Subject: RE: [plcs-dex] Template: assigning_realized_resource was > > > referencing_resource_as_realized > > > > > > > > > > > > All > > > > > > > > > > > > In my mind the review process solves this problem (at least > > to certain > > > extent) > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Leif > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: Steve Yates [mailto:steve.yates@eurostep.com] > > > Sent: den 22 oktober 2007 10:34 > > > To: Leif Gyllström; Rob Bodington; plcs-dex@lists.oasis-open.org > > > Subject: RE: [plcs-dex] Template: assigning_realized_resource was > > > referencing_resource_as_realized > > > > > > Hi Rob, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no objection to this one, but in principle I do have > > a concern. In this particular case, no effort has gone into > > implementing this Template in real code. If it had, then > > that some rework would have been required, which would have > > needed funding. > > > > > > In the AP203/AP214 arena, there was particular dismay > > amongst the software vendors when changes of this form came > > up, leading in the end to them refusing to implement anything > > that had not reached ISO IS status, i.e. would not change. > > This may be something to bear in mind as more implementations > > of AP239, especially those using the templates, come into being. > > > > > > > > > > > > One way of mitigating this may be to have a maturity > > indicator on the Template, to give a feeling of how likely it > > is to change, and thus how "safe" it is to put into code. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -------------- > > > > > > Steve Yates > > > > > > Senior Consultant > > > > > > Tel: +44 1745 582008 > > > > > > Fax: +44 1745 585556 > > > > > > Mobile: +44 7795 563102 > > > > > > E-Mail: Steve.Yates@Eurostep.com <mailto:Steve.Yates@Eurostep.com> > > > > > > Web: www.eurostep.com <http://www.eurostep.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > Eurostep Limited. Registered in England and Wales No.03049099 > > > > > > Registered Office: Cwttir Lane, St. Asaph, Denbighshire LL17 0LQ. > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -------------- > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: Leif Gyllström [mailto:Leif.Gyllstrom@sat.saabgroup.com] > > > Sent: 22 October 2007 09:23 > > > To: Rob Bodington; plcs-dex@lists.oasis-open.org > > > Subject: RE: [plcs-dex] Template: assigning_realized_resource was > > > referencing_resource_as_realized > > > > > > > > > > > > Fine with me > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Leif > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: Rob Bodington [mailto:rob.bodington@eurostep.com] > > > Sent: den 22 oktober 2007 10:15 > > > To: plcs-dex@lists.oasis-open.org > > > Subject: [plcs-dex] Template: assigning_realized_resource was > > > referencing_resource_as_realized > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > The template referencing_resource_as_realized has been renamed > > > assigning_realized_resource > > > > > > This is in response to an issue raised against it and to > > align it with the template assigning_required_resource. > > > > > > > > > > > > At this stage, the template > > referencing_resource_as_realized has been deprecated rather > > than deleted. > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless there are any objections, I propose to go ahead with the > > > renaming and delete referencing_resource_as_realized > > > > > > Regards > > > Rob > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > > Rob Bodington > > > Eurostep Limited > > > Web Page: http://www.eurostep.com <http://www.eurostep.com/> > > > http://www.share-a-space.com <http://www.share-a-space.com/> > > > Email: Rob.Bodington@eurostep.com > > > Phone: +44 (0)1452 810 960 > > > Mobile: +44 (0)7796 176 401 > > > Skype: rbodington > > > > > > Eurostep Limited. 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