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regards
Gordon
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From: Carl-Johan Wilen [mailto:Carl-Johan.Wilen@saab.se]
Sent: 09 June 2005 09:27
To: Barker, Sean (UK); mats.nilsson@fmv.se; plcs@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [plcs] Groups - ref_data_procedure_v001.doc uploaded
Sean,
You are right. The final distribution and archiving of the documents should
be done in pdf (there are stronger movements than PLCS which will support
that they can be read in the future). Word is however an excellent engine
during the revision process.
/Carl
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From: Barker, Sean (UK) [mailto:sean.barker@baesystems.com]
Sent: den 9 juni 2005 10:23
To: Carl-Johan Wilen; mats.nilsson@fmv.se; plcs@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [plcs] Groups - ref_data_procedure_v001.doc uploaded
The main objection to the use of Word is the long term retention of the
data. If the standard is to be used over the long term, and the document
forms part of the standard or supporting information, it should probably be
stores as PDF, as there is significant effort being made in the archiving
community to ensure that pdf files will be readable long term.
Sean Barker
ATC Filton
0117 302 8184
-----Original Message-----
From: Carl-Johan Wilen [mailto:Carl-Johan.Wilen@saab.se]
Sent: 08 June 2005 15:39
To: mats.nilsson@fmv.se; plcs@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [plcs] Groups - ref_data_procedure_v001.doc uploaded
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DEXlib-ers,
I know that some people love XML and data "hidden" in databases, but there
is nothing like a Word document!
Every one can read and print it. You can file it on your system the way you
want. You can comment on it and even comment on comments and the author can
easily summarize the comments and create the final document for approval.
Well, let\s go for Mats' proposal. And define a simple registration number
series for PLCS TC document.
(Eg PLCS-2005-0001-001:00 = doc 0001 for Year 2005, Version 001, 00 =
approved and released)
Regards
Carl
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From: mats.nilsson@fmv.se [mailto:mats.nilsson@fmv.se]
Sent: den 8 juni 2005 13:51...
To: plcs@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: SV: [plcs] Groups - ref_data_procedure_v001.doc uploaded
Hi all,
This is a comment on the procedure used by Rob to prepare the ballot
document.
I firmly believe that,
1- Creating the information which should be balloted in DEXlib.
2- Copying it from DEXlib and pasting it into a Word-document.
3- Presenting the document for ballot.
should be stated as a standard ballot procedure within the OASIS PLCS TC,
because it makes sure that the information exists within DEXlib and isn't
lost in a document in the OASIS archive.
The author/"ballot-manager" is of course responsable to correct DEXlib later
according to the ballot descision.
This procedure should only be used for ballots regarding information which
should be inside DEXlib (e.g. not for OASIS PLCS TC organisation issues).
Regards,
Mats
............................................................................
..
Mats Nilsson - KC Logistik
FMV - Försvarets materielverk
Swedish Defense Materiel Administration
S-115 88 Stockholm, Sweden
tel: +46 8 782 47 24 mobile: +46 70 267 47 24
fax: +46 8 782 65 64 e-mail: mats.nilsson@fmv.se
-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Från: rob.bodington@eurostep.com [mailto:rob.bodington@eurostep.com]
Skickat: den 7 juni 2005 17:43
Till: plcs@lists.oasis-open.org
Ämne: [plcs] Groups - ref_data_procedure_v001.doc uploaded
I have just uploaded this document in response to:
ACTION 15/3: Rob Bodington to cut down reference data procedures to
essential information. Secretariat to send out for ballot for voting
members only. Send ballot copy to entire PLCS membership.
The document outlines the procedure for developing and publishing PLCS
reference data.
The master document is held on DExlib under the help section and has been
pasted into this Word document for ease of access.
-- Dr Rob Bodington
The document named ref_data_procedure_v001.doc has been submitted by Dr Rob
Bodington to the OASIS Product Life Cycle Support (PLCS) TC document
repository.
Document Description:
This document outlines the procedure for developing and publishing PLCS
reference data.
The master document is held on DExlib under the help section and has been
pasted into this Word document for ease of access.
View Document Details:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/plcs/document.php?document_id=1
2993
Download Document:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/plcs/download.php/12993/ref_dat
a_procedure_v001.doc
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Gentlefolk,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Are we not loosing the thread of the process.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From what I understand, the information(in draft =
format(specification/process/procedure/etc)) is uploaded onto DEXLib as =
an XML file by the author, then converted into a 'readable format' for =
distribution via the OASIS web site for appraisal and approval, then =
subsequently uploaded back into DEXlib as a OASIS TC approved XML file. =
This file will be the master. The means of transmitting the =
appraisal doc must be in a 'most used format' be it MS/openoffice/Adobe =
generated, it should never be deemed be more than appraisal information =
for the master XML file on DEXlib.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>regards</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Gordon</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Carl-Johan Wilen [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:Carl-Johan.Wilen@saab.se";>mailto:Carl-Johan.Wilen@saab.se=
</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: 09 June 2005 09:27</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Barker, Sean (UK); mats.nilsson@fmv.se; =
plcs@lists.oasis-open.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: [plcs] Groups - =
ref_data_procedure_v001.doc uploaded</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sean,</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>You are right. The final distribution and archiving =
of the documents should be done in pdf (there are stronger movements =
than PLCS which will support that they can be read in the future). Word =
is however an excellent engine during the revision process.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>/Carl</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Barker, Sean (UK) [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:sean.barker@baesystems.com";>mailto:sean.barker@baesystems=
.com</A>] </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: den 9 juni 2005 10:23</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Carl-Johan Wilen; mats.nilsson@fmv.se; =
plcs@lists.oasis-open.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: [plcs] Groups - =
ref_data_procedure_v001.doc uploaded</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The main objection to the use of Word is the long =
term retention of the data. If the standard is to be used over the long =
term, and the document forms part of the standard or supporting =
information, it should probably be stores as PDF, as there is =
significant effort being made in the archiving community to ensure that =
pdf files will be readable long term.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sean Barker</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>ATC Filton</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>0117 302 8184</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Carl-Johan Wilen [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:Carl-Johan.Wilen@saab.se";>mailto:Carl-Johan.Wilen@saab.se=
</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: 08 June 2005 15:39</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: mats.nilsson@fmv.se; =
plcs@lists.oasis-open.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: [plcs] Groups - =
ref_data_procedure_v001.doc uploaded</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P><FONT =
SIZE=3D2> &nb=
sp; *** WARNING ***</FONT>
</P>
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</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2> Keep this in mind if you =
answer this message.</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>DEXlib-ers,</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I know that some people love XML and data =
"hidden" in databases, but there is nothing like a Word =
document!</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Every one can read and print it. You can file it on =
your system the way you want. You can comment on it and even comment on =
comments and the author can easily summarize the comments and create =
the final document for approval.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Well, let\s go for Mats' proposal. And define a =
simple registration number series for PLCS TC document.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>(Eg PLCS-2005-0001-001:00 =3D doc 0001 for Year 2005, =
Version 001, 00 =3D approved and released)</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Regards</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Carl</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: mats.nilsson@fmv.se [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:mats.nilsson@fmv.se";>mailto:mats.nilsson@fmv.se</A>]</FON=
T>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: den 8 juni 2005 13:51...</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: plcs@lists.oasis-open.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: SV: [plcs] Groups - =
ref_data_procedure_v001.doc uploaded</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2> Hi all,</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>This is a comment on the procedure used by Rob to =
prepare the ballot document.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I firmly believe that,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2> 1- Creating the information which =
should be balloted in DEXlib.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2> 2- Copying it from DEXlib and pasting =
it into a Word-document.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2> 3- Presenting the document for =
ballot.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>should be stated as a standard ballot procedure =
within the OASIS PLCS TC, because it makes sure that the information =
exists within DEXlib and isn't lost in a document in the OASIS =
archive.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The author/"ballot-manager" is of course =
responsable to correct DEXlib later according to the ballot =
descision.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>This procedure should only be used for ballots =
regarding information which should be inside DEXlib (e.g. not for OASIS =
PLCS TC organisation issues).</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Regards,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2> Mats</FONT>
<BR><FONT =
SIZE=3D2>...............................................................=
...............</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Mats Nilsson - KC Logistik</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>FMV - F=F6rsvarets materielverk</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Swedish Defense Materiel Administration</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>S-115 88 Stockholm, Sweden</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>tel: +46 8 782 47 24 mobile: =
+46 70 267 47 24</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>fax: +46 8 782 65 64 e-mail: =
mats.nilsson@fmv.se</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Fr=E5n: rob.bodington@eurostep.com [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:rob.bodington@eurostep.com";>mailto:rob.bodington@eurostep=
.com</A>]</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Skickat: den 7 juni 2005 17:43</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Till: plcs@lists.oasis-open.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>=C4mne: [plcs] Groups - ref_data_procedure_v001.doc =
uploaded</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I have just uploaded this document in response =
to:</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>ACTION 15/3: Rob Bodington to cut down reference data =
procedures to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>essential information. Secretariat to send out =
for ballot for voting</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>members only. Send ballot copy to entire PLCS =
membership.</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The document outlines the procedure for developing =
and publishing PLCS</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>reference data.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>The master document is held on DExlib under the help =
section and has been</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>pasted into this Word document for ease of =
access.</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2> -- Dr Rob Bodington</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The document named ref_data_procedure_v001.doc has =
been submitted by Dr Rob</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Bodington to the OASIS Product Life Cycle Support =
(PLCS) TC document</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>repository.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Document Description:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>This document outlines the procedure for developing =
and publishing PLCS</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>reference data.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>The master document is held on DExlib under the help =
section and has been</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>pasted into this Word document for ease of =
access.</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>View Document Details:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2><A =
HREF=3D"http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/plcs/document.php?d=
ocument_id=3D12993" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/plcs/docu=
ment.php?document_id=3D12993</A></FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Download Document:</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2><A =
HREF=3D"http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/plcs/download.php/1=
2993/ref_data_procedure_v001.doc" =
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