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Subject: RE: [regrep] Proposed changes to ebMS Binding and HTTP Binding


Actually, for quite some time we did support it.  All it would have taken
was for someone to require it.  Did we promote it? No. I never endorsed it
architecturally...but the customer is always right even when they are very
wrong ...

-Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: David RR Webber [mailto:david@drrw.info] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 9:56 AM
To: Matthew MacKenzie; 'Chiusano Joseph'; 'Farrukh Najmi';
regrep@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [regrep] Proposed changes to ebMS Binding and HTTP Binding

I guess this is the opposite of "build it and they will come" = "I didn't
build it - and noone came".

DW

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matthew MacKenzie" <mattm@adobe.com>
To: "'Chiusano Joseph'" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>; "'Farrukh Najmi'"
<Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM>; <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 9:11 AM
Subject: RE: [regrep] Proposed changes to ebMS Binding and HTTP Binding


> I don't know that it matters.  The two major implementations have not
really
> supported the ebMS binding, and there have not been many complaints that I
> can remember.
>
> -Matt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chiusano Joseph [mailto:chiusano_joseph@bah.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 9:09 AM
> To: Farrukh Najmi; regrep@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [regrep] Proposed changes to ebMS Binding and HTTP Binding
>
> Just one question, from more of a "perception" perspective: Does
> removing the ebMS binding "break" anyone's perception (within or outside
> of OASIS) of an integratable ebXML framework? Does it send a negative
> message (no pun intended)? Or does it not matter whether it sends any
> type of message at all?
>
> Kind Regards,
> Joseph Chiusano
> Booz Allen Hamilton
> Strategy and Technology Consultants to the World
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Farrukh Najmi [mailto:Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM]
> > Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 11:49 AM
> > To: regrep@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: [regrep] Proposed changes to ebMS Binding and HTTP Binding
> >
> >
> > Here is a breath of fresh air. I am for once proposing
> > reducing scope instead of increasing it for 3.0 specs :-)
> >
> > 1. Based on implementation experience I think we should drop
> > the ebMS binding from the RS spec for the following reasons:
> >
> > -It is out of date and underspecified. In its current form of
> > specificity and accuracy it is unimplementable.
> >
> > -It would take major work to align it with ebMS 3.0 and
> > define template CPAs for registry and client
> >
> > 2. Based on implementation experience I think we should drop
> > bindings for all registry protocol methods that require HTTP
> > POST from ebRS for the following reasons:
> >
> > -Sending protocol messages over HTTP POST without SOAP is
> > pointless since we need to duplicate functionality of the
> > SOAP Header. This is very non-standard in other similar
> > specifications.
> >
> > -SOAP Binding is already supporting any such protocol
> > messages over HTTP POST
> >
> > -It is not good to have two similar but different ways of
> > implementing the same protocol
> >
> > Note that one side effect of (2) is that we can now remove
> > the SignatureList element from RegistryRequestType and
> > RegistryResponseType since they were there to carry
> > signatures when there was no SOAP envelope (totally
> > non-standard practice).
> >
> > I have discussed this with Matt who is an expert on both
> > issues and he supported my proposal.
> >
> > Does any one have any objections to above proposals (1) and (2)?
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Farrukh
> >
> >
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