Re: [sca-assembly] Discussion Proposed solutions before premature motionand long ammendement chains

[Simon Nash <NASH@uk.ibm.com>]

I agree.  We have to find a way to get through discussions like this more 
efficiently, or we will never get to a finished spec.

    Simon 

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Mike Edwards/UK/IBM@IBMGB 
17/10/2007 13:19

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Tom, 

Big +1 from me. 

How about you put this forward as a standing rule motion at the next 
Assembly call. 

I think that it is far better to get problems with the wording sorted out 
before formal motions take place. 
Motions can be an abysmal and slow way of changing text. 

If there is a problem that folk have with the nature of the proposal, that 
is a different matter.  That is where 
amendments to formal motions allow for good decisionmaking. 


Yours,  Mike.

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Tom Rutt <tom@coastin.com> 
16/10/2007 16:45 

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In discussing the issue 6, a Motion was made to accept the proposed 
solution, before we had time to
discuss the wording of the proposal.

In many committees, it has been allowed to have wordsmith to a proposed 
issue resolution before a motion
to accept is made.

This allows easier discussion of the wording changes without going thru 
a painful chain of ammendments.

I suggest that motions should not be made until there has been 
discussion of the proposed resolution, and
people have had a chance to voice all their concerns on the proposed text.

Tom Rutt

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