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Subject: Re: Fw: [sca-bindings] 15-day Committee Specification Draft ReviewRequest for Service Component Architecture JMS Binding Specification Version1.1
Many thanks, Simon. I updated the ticket and will send out the public review announcement hopefully later today. http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/TCADMIN-322?focusedCommentId=24376&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_24376 -rcc Robin Cover Interim TC Administrator OASIS, Director of Information Services Editor, Cover Pages and XML Daily Newslink Email: robin@oasis-open.org Staff bio: http://www.oasis-open.org/who/staff.php#cover Cover Pages: http://xml.coverpages.org/ Newsletter: http://xml.coverpages.org/newsletterArchive.html Tel: +1 972-296-1783 On Wed, 26 Jan 2011, Simon Holdsworth wrote: > Robin, > > With respect to the JMS XML Binding Schema, it has been developed by the SCA Bindings TC, is a normative part of the JMS > Binding Specification Version 1.1, and should be considered part of the material for public review of the JMS Binding > specification. However the schemas overall for the SCA TC's have been coordinated by the Assembly TC within the > http://docs.oasis-open.org/ns/opencsa/sca/200912 namespace, hence the location of the file within > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/ > This relationship also applies to XML schemas from other SCA TCs. > > I confirm that the version of the XML document at > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-csd05.xsd is the one which corresponds to CSD05 of the > JMS binding spec. > > The original request included a request for the diff to be generated as part of the PR process, as this was combined with the > CSD request and at that time the CSD document was not available. Now that the JMS specification CSDPR03 document is > available I will create a diff between this and the cd04 version later today. > > Regards, Simon > > Simon Holdsworth > STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings TC Chair, AT&T and Boeing Lab Advocate > MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK > Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898 > Internet - Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com > > > > From: Robin Cover <robin@oasis-open.org> > To: Simon Holdsworth/UK/IBM@IBMGB > Cc: Robin Cover <robin@oasis-open.org>, sca-bindings@lists.oasis-open.org > Date: 24/01/2011 20:52 > Subject: Re: Fw: [sca-bindings] 15-day Committee Specification Draft Review Request for Service Component Architecture > JMS Binding Specification Version 1.1 > > ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Simon, > > I hope this restatement makes it easier for you or the TC to provide > clarification on the status of the "JMS XML Binding Schema", but > I am not able to determine whether it is truly a "part of" the > SCA JMS Binding Specification Version 1.1, since the apparent > URI identifies the resource as part of a Work Product produced > by the SCA Assembly TC. > > Restatement of question about the status of the "JMS XML Binding Schema" > as part of the public review announcement for 'Service Component Architecture > JMS Binding Specification Version 1.1' (csprd03) > > 1. The question arose because in the preceding public review of this > JMS Binding specification, > http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/tc-announce/201006/msg00001.html > the announcement identified the JMS XML Binding Schema as part of > the review: > "The schema files are available at: > Schema: > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-cd04.xsd > > 2. It seemed (to me) odd that a schema apparently developed by the > SCA-Assembly TC would be referenced as part of the review for the > work product of the SCA-Bindings TC, but OK.... for now... move on... > > 3. On analogy, if the 'csprd03' public review announcement is to make > comparable reference to the machine-readable file for the > JMS XML Binding Schema (sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd), the proper > URI would be: > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-csd05.xsd > > 4. That file was published on 03-Nov-2010 16:45, apparently as a product > of the SCA-Assembly TC > sca-binding-jms-1.1-csd05.xsd 03-Nov-2010 16:45 > > 5. So we could just ignore the "JMS XML Binding Schema" machine > readable file as part of the 'csprd03' public review announcement, > but it seems that the latest published instance of the "Service > Component Architecture Assembly Model Specification Version 1.1" > (at Committee Draft 06, 10 August 2010) punts to the "SCA JMS > Binding Specification" as the source for the schema file > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-cd06.html#_Toc270599635 > (in Appendix A.9) > > "A.9 sca-binding-jms.xsd > Is described in the SCA JMS Binding specification [SCA-JMSBINDING]" > > which says: > > "[SCA-JMSBINDING ] > OASIS Committee Draft 04, "SCA JMS Binding Specification > Version 1.1 Version 1.1", May 2010 > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec.pdf " > > 6. In other words, it's difficult for me to determine whether the > "JMS XML Binding Schema" is properly a "part of" the > Assembly Model Specification or part of the JMS Binding Specification > > 7. I'm sure the difficulty lies in my failure to appreciate how the > different specs align and cross-reference each other, but in terms > of "part-whole" relations, I need to understand whether the > "JMS XML Binding Schema" is defined canonically and normatively > as "part of" one or the other specification. That declaration would > have implications as to where and when the Schema (now > apparently at: > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-csd05.xsd ) > would be part of public review. > > Sorry for my confusion here. > > - Robin > > ===== Other data: > > Snippets from the SCA JMS Binding Specification csprd03 > > - "The binding.jms element MUST conform to the XML schema defined in > sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd [BJM30036]." > - 3.1 Extensibility: The JMS binding allows further customization of > the binding element and its subelements with vendor specific > attributes or elements. This is done by providing extension points > in the schema; refer to Appendix A, 'JMS XML Binding Schema: > sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd' for the locations of these extension > points. > > Robin Cover > Interim TC Administrator > OASIS, Director of Information Services > Editor, Cover Pages and XML Daily Newslink > Email: robin@oasis-open.org > Staff bio: http://www.oasis-open.org/who/staff.php#cover > Cover Pages: http://xml.coverpages.org/ > Newsletter: http://xml.coverpages.org/newsletterArchive.html > Tel: +1 972-296-1783 > > =============== initial message: > > http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201101/msg00016.html > > On Mon, 24 Jan 2011, Robin Cover wrote: > > > Simon, > > > > I made a tour over the history of the request (18/Nov/10 05:19 AM) > > and cannot account for why it got stalled apparently as of > > 23/Nov/10 03:50 PM. > > > > If there are untidy details you think I need to understand to > > process the public review request, please let me know, but > > otherwise I think the fastest path is to just help with > > clarifications and/or resources for the following, and then > > we should be ready for the PR announcement. > > > > - Robin > > > > 1. Please confirm that the specification for this public review > > request has only one prose "part", referenced in [1] > > > > 2. Please clarify whether the two "Schema"[s] cited in > > the specification are normative, and whether we > > need to reference one or both by separate URI [2] > > in the public review announcement. > > My provisional opinion is that it suffice to reference/cite > > just this schema URI, although the prose spec seems not to do > > so: > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-csd05.xsd > > > > 3. Changes/diff > > > > Per TC Process "Changes made to a committee draft after a > > review must be clearly identified in any subsequent review..." > > See questions below about the diff document or list > > of changes that should be referenced in the announcement > > > > 4. does the TC have a "recommendation from the TC of external > > stakeholders who should be notified of the review" ? > > ["none" is acceptable] > > > > > > ===== References: > > > > [1] 'csprd03' as apparent subject of 15-day review > > > > Service Component Architecture JMS Binding Specification Version 1.1 > > Committee Specification Draft 05 / > > Public Review Draft 03 > > 8 November 2010 > > > > Specification URIs: > > This Version: > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-csprd03.html > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-csprd03.doc > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-csprd03.pdf > > (Authoritative) > > > > * note that this spec was uploaded in November > > > > [2] Additional "parts" or schemas that may require reference in the > > public review announcement > > > > a) [Spec Appendix] A. JMS XML Binding Schema: sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-csprd03.html#_Toc276112160 > > > > - is the "JMS XML Binding Schema" intended to be normative? > > If so, we expect a plain text file > > - the apparent filename for the schema is "sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd" > > - what is the corresponding URI? > > - possible candidate URI is: > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-csd05.xsd > > - hint: previous public review suggests > > http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/tc-announce/201006/msg00001.html, was: > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-cd04.xsd > > > > snippets: > > > > - "The binding.jms element MUST conform to the XML schema defined in > > sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd [BJM30036]." > > - 3.1 Extensibility: The JMS binding allows further customization of > > the binding element and its subelements with vendor specific > > attributes or elements. This is done by providing extension points > > in the schema; refer to Appendix A, 'JMS XML Binding Schema: > > sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd' for the locations of these extension > > points. > > - from NS document at: http://docs.oasis-open.org/ns/opencsa/sca/200912 > > any hints? > > > > b) Spec section "3 JMS Binding Schema" > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-csprd03.html#_Toc276112132 > > > > - does this content for "JMS Binding Schema" have, or need, > > and external file and URI? > > > > [3] Changes/diff > > > > In the submission request -322 (Additional Resources), the form > > value states > > > > "[3] http://www.oasis-open.org/simplediffplease" > > > > Was that a request to have TC Admin produce a diff document? > > > > The diff we need should be a diff of B against A (right?): > > > > A: > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-cd04.doc > > B: > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-csd05.doc > > > > If the TC can provide this diff document, it will be appreciated. If we need > > to do it, I'll make arrangements. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Robin Cover > > Interim TC Administrator > > OASIS, Director of Information Services > > Editor, Cover Pages and XML Daily Newslink > > Email: robin@oasis-open.org > > Staff bio: http://www.oasis-open.org/who/staff.php#cover > > Cover Pages: http://xml.coverpages.org/ > > Newsletter: http://xml.coverpages.org/newsletterArchive.html > > Tel: +1 972-296-1783 > > > > > > On Mon, 24 Jan 2011, Simon Holdsworth wrote: > > > >> Robin. > >> > >> I've still not seen a response to this request regarding the JMS binding 15 > >> day review. It is now over 2 months since the > >> original request for PR was made. I would appreciate it if you could > >> acknowledge receipt of this mail and let me know the > >> status/outlook for this public review request. > >> > >> Thanks, Simon > >> > >> Simon Holdsworth > >> STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings TC Chair, > >> AT&T and Boeing Lab Advocate > >> MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK > >> Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898 > >> Internet - Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com > >> > >> __________________ > >> > >> Robin, > >> > >> Not sure if my previous mail got through to you... we are still waiting for > >> the 15 day public review to start as recorded in > >> > >> http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/TCADMIN-322 > >> > >> Thanks, Simon > >> > >> Simon Holdsworth > >> STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings TC Chair, > >> AT&T and Boeing Lab Advocate > >> MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK > >> Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898 > >> Internet - Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com > >> > >> __________________ > >> > >> I was under the impression we had resolved the dependency for the XSD file > >> for the JMS binding spec public review, I'd > >> appreciate it if you could let me know current status of this as I've not > >> seen any announcement of the public review on the > >> mailing list. > >> > >> The request is logged in > >> http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/TCADMIN-322 which is in > >> "submission review" state. > >> > >> Regards, Simon > >> > >> Simon Holdsworth > >> STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings TC Chair, > >> AT&T and Boeing Lab Advocate > >> MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK > >> Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898 > >> Internet - Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com > >> ----- Forwarded by Simon Holdsworth/UK/IBM on 06/01/2011 13:28 ----- > >> > >> From: Simon Holdsworth/UK/IBM > >> To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org > >> Cc: Mike Edwards/UK/IBM@IBMGB, Bryan Aupperle/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS > >> Date: 13/12/2010 13:39 > >> Subject: Re: [sca-bindings] 15-day Committee Specification Draft > >> Review Request for Service Component Architecture JMS > >> Binding Specification Version 1.1 > >> > >>____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > >> > >> > >> Mary, > >> > >> What is the status of this request now? I believe Mike Edwards has sorted > >> out the updated XSD files for all the specs > >> including this one. > >> > >> Thanks, Simon > >> > >> Simon Holdsworth > >> STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings TC Chair, > >> AT&T and Boeing Lab Advocate > >> MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK > >> Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898 > >> Internet - Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com > >> > >> > >> > >> From: "mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org> > >> To: sca-bindings@lists.oasis-open.org > >> Date: 18/11/2010 10:22 > >> Subject: [sca-bindings] 15-day Committee Specification Draft Review > >> Request for Service Component Architecture JMS > >> Binding Specification Version 1.1 > >> > >>____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > >> > >> > >> > >> The following request has been submitted to the OASIS TC Administrator on > >> 18/11/2010: > >> Submitter's Name > >> Simon Holdsworth > >> TC Name > >> SCA Bindings > >> TC Email Address > >> sca-bindings@lists.oasis-open.org > >> Work Product Title > >> Service Component Architecture JMS Binding Specification Version 1.1 > >> Committee Specification Draft ## > >> csd01 > >> CSD URI > >> > >> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/40045/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-cd04-rev3.doc > >> Additional Resources > >> http://www.oasis-open.org/simplediffplease > >> Approval Link > >> > >> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/40245/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202010-11-11.doc > >> Previous Public Review Announcement > >> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/tc-announce/201006/msg00001.html > >> Abstract > >> SCA JMS Binding Specification > >> TC Description > >> The SCA Bindings technical committee defines the manner in which SCA > >> composites and components communicate using a variety > >> of protocols > >> Notes > >> Please generate a diff from the previous published PR version, which was > >> cd04. > >> > >> > >> > >> Thank you for your request. We will confirm receipt and schedule the public > >> review shortly. 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