raw notes 11 june 09

anish: Agenda -

anish: 1. Roll Call

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php

2. Appointment of scribe

Scribe list attached below

3. Agenda bashing

4. Approval of Jun 4, 2009 minutes

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00008.html

5. Action Items review

#0068 Editors - fix the typo "orginalName" in the section 2.3

PENDING

#0077 Anish - fix the target where it says: "The component type of the component that uses " with "CT of the BPEL process"

PENDING

#0081 Editors - Clean up prerequisites so that they are all inlined.

PENDING

#0084 Editors  to fix the typo and change sca:service to sca:reference in SBPEL3018

#0086 Sanjay  Revise predicate for Test Assertions SP01-1 and SP01-2 to follow a style of statement of fact concerning the target of the test, etc.

#0087 Sanjay  Replace the term process definition with WS-BPEL process wherever it occurs in the test assertions.

#0088 Sanjay  Update the prerequisite for test assertions SP03-2, SP02-3, SP05-2 and SP05-3 as discussed on the 6/4 conf-call

6. Test assertion doc

Latest Draft v09: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00007.html

Review the recent changes to the TAs and discuss SBL-TA-SP08, SBL-TA-SP09  Sanjay

Review the recent changes to the TAs - Khanderao

7. Issue Discussion

a) Issue 41

SBPEL2022 has an incorrect 'MAY' and is not applied recursively

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-41

Email discussion -

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00035.html

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00041.html

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00044.html

b) Issue 42

SBPEL3004 has an incorrect 'MAY'

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-42

Email discussion --

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00022.html

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00025.html

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00031.html

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00040.html

8. Plan for testing

Seeking volunteers to write test cases

9. AOB

anish: Chair: Sanjay Patil

anish: Date: 2009-06-11

Martin C: scribenick: Martin C

anish: Scribe: Martin Chapman

Martin C: Topic: Agenda

Martin C: Approved w/o

Martin C: Topic: Minutes

Martin C: Jun 4, 2009 minutes

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00008.html

Martin C: Approved w/o

Martin C: Topic: Action Items

anish: Resolution: Minutes of 2009-06-04 telcon located at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00008.html approved

Martin C thinks anish should do the minutes</B< pre>

Dieter Koenig: SCA-BPEL 1.1 CD 02 Revision 2

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/document.php?document_id=32890

Martin C: #0086 Sanjay  Revise predicate for Test Assertions SP01-1 and SP01-2 to follow a style of statement of fact concerning the target of the test, etc.

#0087 Sanjay  Replace the term process definition with WS-BPEL process wherever it occurs in the test assertions.

#0088 Sanjay  Update the prerequisite for test assertions SP03-2, SP02-3, SP05-2 and SP05-3 as discussed on the 6/4 conf-call

Martin C: 86, 87 and 88 done

anish i usually do those things when i format the minutes (so that the script generates all the right resolutions, actions, roll etc). Thought I would do it in real time </B< pre>

anish martin you are really faint</B< pre>

Martin C: 68 and 84: closed

Martin C: Topic: Test assertions

Martin C: Latest Draft v09: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00007.html

Martin C: note cover page says 09 and 10 april. this info must be updated on each release!

anish: SBL-TA-SP01-1

Martin C: SBL-TA-SP01-2

Martin C: both above rephrased to change predicate to read like a statement of fact

anish: minor ed comment: SP03-3 has a different font

anish: SP03-2 and SP03-3 both have a different font

Martin C: Action: Editors to global replace sbpel2019 with sbpel2020, sbel2021 and spbel2022

Dieter Koenig: page 13 , SBL-TA-2017

Dieter Koenig: ... can go away

Martin C: Since SBEL2019 no longer exists what do we do with it?

Dieter Koenig: the other references to SBPEL2019 are in SBL-TA-SP03-3 and in SBL-TA-SP05-3

Martin C: Action: Editors to remove SBL-TA-2017

anish thinks that we already made a decision to remove 2017, it just hasn't been done yet</B< pre>

Martin C: SBL-TA-SP05-2, SBL-TA-SP05-3, similar changes to SP03

Martin C: SBL-TA-SP08, rephrased predicate

Martin C: schema can validate qnames, we need to validate they are intents, but isnt this the job of sca policy assertions

anish: [SBPEL3022] The contents of the sca-bpel:requires attribute MUST be exactly as specified in the SCA Policy Framework Specification for the contents of the @sca:requires attribute.

Martin C: The proposal above refers to the spec text

Martin C: Need a new issues to change the spec wrt SBPEL3022

Martin C: There is no assertion for SBPEL3021, so we need one?

Martin C: s/so/do

Martin C: Need to raise an issue to adress this, but Dieter nite sthis would reverse resolution to ISSUE-35

anish: http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-35

Martin C: s/nite s/notes /

Martin C: so to adress this 35 would need to be re-openned

Martin C: s/ad/add/

Martin C: There should be at least one assertion for SBPEL3021

Martin C: ACTION: Mike E to draft assertion(s) for SPEIL3021

Martin C: s/SPEIL/SBPEL/

anish: the new issue has been filed

anish: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00013.html

anish: http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-45

Martin C: SBL-TA-SP09, needs to be split to separate out service and references

Martin C: ACTION: Sanjay to split SBPL-TA-SP09

Dieter Koenig: minor editing: on page 24, the section "Cross Mapping ..." should not reference SBPEL3013, SBPEL3014, SBPEL3017 because these conformance items no longer exist

Martin C: Cross mapping table needs to be updated

Martin C: AOB:

Dieter Koenig: Next week's call is in parallel with the BPEL4People TC F2F meeting

Martin C: need to decide whether to have a call on 2nd July

Martin C: Sanjay hopes to have his actions done before his well earned vacation

anish have to step out</B< pre>

Martin C: Danny moves to cancel next weeks meeting due to B4p F2F, 2nd Nageeb, passed w/o

Martin C is bitter and twisted</B< pre>

Martin C: straglers, nageeb

Martin C: meeting closed

Danny van der Rijn at least he has a sense of humoUr</B< pre>

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