Formatted minutes of 2009-06-25 telcon

[Anish Karmarkar <Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com>]

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Title: SCA-BPEL - 2009-06-25

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OASIS SCA-BPEL TC

25 JUN 2009

Attendees

Present

Michael Rowley, (Active Endpoints, Inc.)

Mike Edwards, (IBM)

Dieter Koenig, (IBM)

Martin Chapman, (Oracle Corporation)

Anish Karmarkar, (Oracle Corporation)

Najeeb Andrabi, (TIBCO Software Inc.)

Danny van der Rijn, (TIBCO Software Inc.)

Chair

Anish Karmarkar

Scribe

Dieter Koenig

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Contents

Topics

[1]  Agenda bashing

[2]  Approval of Jun 11, 2009 minutes

[3]  Action Items review

[4]  Administrivia

[5]  Public Review

[6]  Issue 45

[7]  Issue 46

[8]  Plan for testing

[9]  Review of the Test Assertions doc

[10]  Issue Discussion

Table of Resolutions

Table of Action Items

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Action Items

New:

2009-06-25-1: Anish to file an issue for each PR comment

2009-06-25-2: MikeE raise an issue against SBPEL3021

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Resolutions

• 2009-06-25-1: Minutes of 2009-06-11 located at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00017.html approved
• 2009-06-25-2: 2009-07-02 call canceled
• 2009-06-25-3: Issue 45 opened
• 2009-06-25-4: issue 45 resolved with proposal in Jira
• 2009-06-25-5: issue 46 is opened

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Minutes

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Agenda -

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1. Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php
2. Appointment of scribe
Scribe list attached below
3. Agenda bashing
4. Approval of Jun 11, 2009 minutes
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00017.html
5. Action Items review
#0077 Anish - fix the target where it says: "The component type of the component that uses " with "CT of the BPEL process"
PENDING
#0081 Editors - Clean up prerequisites so that they are all inlined.
PENDING
#0089 Sanjay Replace globally in the TA doc SBPEL2019 with SBPEL2020, SBPEL2021 and SBPEL2022
DONE
#0090 Sanjay Delete SBL-TA-2017 assertion from the TA doc
DONE
#0091 Mike Edwards Create test assertion(s) for the statement SBPEL3021
DONE
#0092 Sanjay Split SBPEL-TA-SP09 into two assertions for SCA service and SCA reference respectively
DONE
6. Administrivia
Do we need to cancel the July 2nd conf-call?
7. Public Review
PR has ended. Received only four comments
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel-comment/200906/maillist.html
8. New Issues
a) Issue 45 - http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-45
SBPEL3022 has redundancy in it
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-45
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00013.html
b) Issue 46 - http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-46
SBPEL3006 isn't deterministic
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-46
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00015.html
9. Plan for testing
Seeking volunteers to write test cases
10. Review of the Test Assertions doc
Latest Draft v11 - http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/download.php/32930/SCA_BPEL_Test_Assertions_11.odt
Description of changes -
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00023.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00031.html
11. Issue Discussion
a) Issue 41
SBPEL2022 has an incorrect 'MAY' and is not applied recursively
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-41
Email discussion -
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00035.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00041.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00044.html
b) Issue 42
SBPEL3004 has an incorrect 'MAY'
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-42
Email discussion --
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00022.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00025.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00031.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00040.html
12. AOB

Scribe: Dieter Koenig

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ScribNick: Dieter Koenig

Agenda bashing

 

agenda accepted without objections

Approval of Jun 11, 2009 minutes

 

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00017.html

 

minutes approved without objection

Resolution: Minutes of 2009-06-11 located at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00017.html approved

Action Items review

:

#0077 Anish - fix the target where it says: "The component type of the component that uses " with "CT of the BPEL process"
PENDING
#0081 Editors - Clean up prerequisites so that they are all inlined.
PENDING
#0089 Sanjay Replace globally in the TA doc SBPEL2019 with SBPEL2020, SBPEL2021 and SBPEL2022
DONE
#0090 Sanjay Delete SBL-TA-2017 assertion from the TA doc
DONE
#0091 Mike Edwards Create test assertion(s) for the statement SBPEL3021
DONE
#0092 Sanjay Split SBPEL-TA-SP09 into two assertions for SCA service and SCA reference respectively
DONE

 

no change to action item status

Administrivia

 

Do we need to cancel the July 2nd conf-call?

 

>>> tc call on july 2nd is cancelled <<<

Resolution: 2009-07-02 call canceled

Public Review

:

PR has ended. Received only four comments
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel-comment/200906/maillist.html

 

proposal to file an issue for each comment

Action: Anish to file an issue for each PR comment

Issue 45

:

a) Issue 45 - http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-45
SBPEL3022 has redundancy in it
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-45
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00013.html

 

Title - SBPEL3022 has redundancy in it
Target: BPEL C&I PRD
Description:
[SBPEL3022] The contents of the sca-bpel:requires attribute MUST be a space separated list of SCA intent QNames, exactly as specified in the SCA Policy Framework Specification for the contents of the @sca:requires attribute.
The fact that it is a space separated list of QNames is already part of the XML Schema.
The fact that the QNames are intents is already covered by the ref to the Policy framework spec.
Proposal:
Replace 3022 with --
[SBPEL3022] The contents of the sca-bpel:requires attribute MUST be exactly as specified in the SCA Policy Framework Specification for the contents of the @sca:requires attribute.

 

motion (dieter), second (mike e): open issue 45

 

motion accepted without objection - issue 45 opened

Resolution: Issue 45 opened

 

motion (dieter), second (najeeb): resolve issue 45 as proposed in jira

 

motion accepted without objection - issue 45 resolved as proposed in jira

Resolution: issue 45 resolved with proposal in Jira

Issue 46

:

http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-46
SBPEL3006 isn't deterministic
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-46
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00015.html

 

SBPEL 3006 has language left over from when the component type was not simply derived from the process. This came up during discussion of issue 42.
[SBPEL3006] The introspected component type MUST include a reference with a multiplicity of either "0..n" or "1..n" that corresponds to a variable with the sca-bpel:multiReference element.
We need to actually specify how to derive the multiplicity from the process.
motion (mike e), second (dieter): open issue 46

 

motion accepted without objection - issue 46 opened

Resolution: issue 46 is opened

Plan for testing

:

Seeking volunteers to write test cases

 

anish will have a look at it

Review of the Test Assertions doc

:

Latest Draft v11 - http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/download.php/32930/SCA_BPEL_Test_Assertions_11.odt
Description of changes -
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00023.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00031.html

 

(related to action item #0091 Create test assertion(s) for the statement SBPEL3021)

 

(this is test assertion sbl-ta-3026)

Action: MikeE raise an issue against SBPEL3021

 

in order to make the text non-normative and remove the corresponding test assertion

Issue Discussion

 

a) Issue 41
SBPEL2022 has an incorrect 'MAY' and is not applied recursively
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-41
Email discussion -
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00035.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00041.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00044.html
b) Issue 42
SBPEL3004 has an incorrect 'MAY'
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-42
Email discussion --
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00022.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00025.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00031.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00040.html

 

(out of time - to be continued in next call)

 

12. AOB

 

none

 

>>> next call is in two weeks

 

meeting adjourned

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