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Subject: [sca-bpel] Unformatted Minutes of 2009-09-17 TC Call




(See attached file: 2009-09-17.txt)

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Dieter König

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[16:58] anish: agenda --
[16:58] anish: 1. Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php

2. Appointment of scribe
Scribe list attached below

3. Agenda bashing

4. Approval of Sep 10, 2009 minutes
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200909/msg00019.html

5. Action Items review
#106 AnishK file an issue about what a conformant runtime does when a non-conformant SCA BPEL doc is provided
DONE

6. New Issues
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-59

7. Issue Discussion

a) Issue 53 - BPEL Process: References with Multiplicity 0..1 - how are they supposed to work?
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-53
Proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200908/msg00021.html

b) Issue 54 - sca-bpel:multiReference/@partnerLinkType and sca-bpel:multiReference/@partnerRole cardinality
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-54
Proposal: in Jira

c) Issue 55 - Co-occurrence constraints on sca-bpelroperty attribute and sca-bpel:multiReference element
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-55
Proposal: in Jira

d) Issue 46 - SBPEL3006 isn't deterministic
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-46
no proposal

e) Issue 50 - Need more examples in the specification
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-50
no proposal

f) Issue 58 - Need to add Capability to indicate that a PartnerLink should be ignored when introspecting the ComponentType of a BPEL process
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-58
Email discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200909/msg00016.html

8. Testing

9. AOB

[17:00] anish: Agenda: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200909/msg00023.html
[17:00] anish: Date: 2009-09-17
[17:00] anish: Chair: Anish Karmarkar
[17:02] anish: 7 out of 9 VM present -- quorate
[17:03] anish: ScribeNick: Dieter Koenig
[17:03] anish: Scribe: Dieter Koenig

[17:03] Dieter Koenig: 3. Agenda bashing
[17:04] Dieter Koenig: Agenda approved without objection

[17:05] Dieter Koenig: 4. Approval of Sep 10, 2009 minutes
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200909/msg00019.html
[17:05] Dieter Koenig: Minutes approved without objection

[17:05] Dieter Koenig: 5. Action Items review
#106 AnishK file an issue about what a conformant runtime does when a non-conformant SCA BPEL doc is provided
DONE

[17:05] Dieter Koenig: 6. New Issues
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-59
[17:07] Dieter Koenig: How does a SCA Extended WS-BPEL Runtime deal with a non-conformant BPEL process?
[17:10] Dieter Koenig: This is about conformance w.r.t. SCA-BPEL (not WS-BPEL 2.0)
[17:11] Martin C: i think we should open the issue, regardless of the solution
[17:11] Martin C: anish you are achoing bad
[17:14] Dieter Koenig: Is this the switch we talk about:
<bpel:extension namespace="http://docs.oasis-open.org/ns/opencsa/sca-bpel/200801"; mustUnderstand="yes|no" />
[17:17] Dieter Koenig: Motion (Martin), second (Danny): open issue BPEL-59
[17:18] Dieter Koenig: Motion passed without objection - issue BPEL-59 opened

[17:18] Dieter Koenig: 7. Issue Discussion

[17:19] Dieter Koenig: 7. a) Issue 53 - BPEL Process: References with Multiplicity 0..1 - how are they supposed to work?
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-53
Proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200908/msg00021.html
[17:20] anish: new wordings: 3.    Stub Reference. [SBPEL2012] If [SBPEL2010] does not apply and the partner link has initializePartnerRole="no", then the multiplicity MUST be "0..1" and the attribute wiredByImpl MUST be set to "true".
[17:25] Dieter Koenig: Motion (Danny), second (Dieter): resolve BPEL-53 as shown in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200908/msg00021.html
[17:25] Dieter Koenig: Motion passed without objection - issue BPEL-53 resolved

[17:26] Dieter Koenig: Kanderao asks for LOA from Oct 1 to Oct 10
[17:27] Dieter Koenig: Note that LOA requests need to be sent to the TC as well

[17:27] Martin C had to drop for another call

[17:28] Dieter Koenig: Note to editors: always keep XML Schema artifacts in spec appendix and SVN in sync
[17:30] Dieter Koenig: New Action Item for Najeeb: update XML Schema artifacts in spec appendix and SVN where necessary (according to the resolution of issue BPEL-52)

[17:30] Dieter Koenig: 7. b) Issue 54 - sca-bpel:multiReference/@partnerLinkType and sca-bpel:multiReference/@partnerRole cardinality
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-54
Proposal: in Jira
[17:32] Dieter Koenig: Issue seems obsolete as the attributes have been removed in a resolution of issue BPEL-52
[17:32] Dieter Koenig: Motion (Najeeb), second (Dieter): resolve BPEL-54 by closing with no action
[17:33] Dieter Koenig: Motion passed without objection - issue BPEL-54 closed with no action

[17:33] Dieter Koenig: 7. c) Issue 55 - Co-occurrence constraints on sca-bpelroperty attribute and sca-bpel:multiReference element
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-55
Proposal: in Jira
[17:36] anish: In the introspected component type a variable cannot be both an SCA property and an SCA reference. [SBPELXXXX] A BPEL variable declaration MUST NOT have both the sca-bpelroperty extension attribute with a value of "yes" and the sca-bpel:multiReference extension child element.
[17:39] Dieter Koenig: Motion (Dieter), second (Danny): resolve BPEL-55 as shown above
[17:39] Dieter Koenig: Motion passed without objection - issue BPEL-55 resolved

[17:39] Dieter Koenig: 7. d) Issue 46 - SBPEL3006 isn't deterministic
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-46
no proposal
[17:40] Dieter Koenig: Discussion postponed

[17:40] Dieter Koenig: 7. e) Issue 50 - Need more examples in the specification
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-50
no proposal
[17:41] Dieter Koenig: Discussion postponed

[17:41] Dieter Koenig: 7. f) Issue 58 - Need to add Capability to indicate that a PartnerLink should be ignored when introspecting the ComponentType of a BPEL process
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-58
Email discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200909/msg00016.html
[17:43] Dieter Koenig: Idea: provide an attribute which signals that the partner link should be ignored
[17:46] Dieter Koenig: ... that is, not considered by SCA as a reference or service
[17:50] Dieter Koenig: Mike R.: This can be useful if SCA is used in conjunction with other extensions
[17:52] Dieter Koenig: If inbound and outbound interactions are performed using non-SCA means then "skip" seems useful
[17:54] Dieter Koenig: General agreement that this capability is helpful
[17:56] Dieter Koenig: Anish to ask Mike E. for an updated proposal

[17:56] Dieter Koenig: 9. AOB
[17:56] Dieter Koenig: None

[17:56] Dieter Koenig: Meeting adjourned

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