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Subject: Formatted minutes of 2010-01-21 telcon


Attached.
Thanks to Mike for scribing.

-Anish
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Title: SCA-BPEL - 2010-01-21

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OASIS SCA-BPEL TC

21 JAN 2010

Attendees

Present
Mike Edwards, (IBM)
Dieter Koenig, (IBM)
Martin Chapman, (Oracle Corporation)
Anish Karmarkar, (Oracle Corporation)
Ashok Malhotra, (Oracle Corporation)
Sanjay Patil, (SAP AG)
Danny van der Rijn, (TIBCO Software Inc.)
Najeeb Andrabi, (TIBCO Software Inc.)
Chair
Anish Karmarkar
Scribe
Mike Edwards
Agenda:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/201001/msg00019.html

Contents

Topics
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items

Action Items

New:
2010-01-21-1: dieter to update the spec to remove "." from assertion lables
2010-01-21-2: sanjay to update the TA doc to sync up with the new CD rev

Resolutions


Minutes

<anish>
agenda -
<anish>
1. Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php
2. Appointment of scribe
Scribe list attached below
3. Agenda bashing
4. Approval of 2010-01-14 minutes
5. Review of Action Items
#0109 MikeEdwards - Send instructions for running the Assembly tests
#0115 MikeEdwards - Prepare an updated version of the proposal for issue 58 (rewriting section 2.1.1 to remove the nested-if)
#0117 Danny - Create a new issue and a proposal for the 0..1 case (related to issue 53)
6. New Issues
None
7. Testing
Planned schedule:
Jan 21 - Revised specification draft
Feb 4 - Update Test Assertion Document
Mar 4 - Test Case Creation
Mar 25 - Review and finalization of Test Cases
Apr 1 - Go for 2nd PR
a> Planning/volunteers for updating the test assertions document
b> MikeE to send instructions for running the tests
Here is a rough break up of work for creating the test cases. More volunteers are appreciated.
Sanjay - SBL-TA-1001 to SBL-TA-2018
Anish - SBL-TA-3001 to SBL-TA-3026
8. Issue Discussion
a) Issue 61 - Need to deal with variable initialization not being idempotent
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-61
RAISER: Danny van der Rijn
Anishs proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/201001/msg00006.html
Email discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/201001/msg00014.html
b) Issue 58 - Need to add Capability to indicate that a PartnerLink should be ignored when introspecting the ComponentType of a BPEL process
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-58
Email discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200909/msg00016.html
Awaiting a new proposal from MikeE based on 2009-10-29 concall discussions
9. AOB

Scribe: Mike Edwards

 
Item 3 Agenda Bashing
 
No changes
 
Item 4 Approval of Minutes from Previous Meeting
<anish>
 
Minutes are approved without objection
Resolution: minutes of of 2010-01-14 located at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/201001/msg00009.html approved
 
Item 5 Action Items
 
#0109 MikeEdwards - Send instructions for running the Assembly tests
#0115 MikeEdwards - Prepare an updated version of the proposal for issue 58 (rewriting section 2.1.1 to remove the nested-if)
#0117 Danny - Create a new issue and a proposal for the 0..1 case (related to issue 53)
 
Item #0109 is still outstanding - Mike debugging the Tuscany BPEL runtime at the moment
 
Item #115 now transferred to Anish, still outstanding
<Dieter Koenig>
 
Item #0117 still outstanding
<Dieter Koenig>
Affected rules:
For the subsequent work on test assertions etc., here is a summary of the affected conformance items:
-- BPEL-41 - Deleted [SBPEL2020], [SBPEL2021], [SBPEL2022] and introduced [SBPEL2023]
-- BPEL-42 - Deleted [SBPEL3004]
-- BPEL-45 - Modified [SBPEL3022] - wording only, no impact on test
-- BPEL-47 - New example only
-- BPEL-48 - Modified introduction text only
-- BPEL-49 - Extended [SBPEL1001]
-- BPEL-51 - Deleted [SBPEL3021]
-- BPEL-53 - Modified [SBPEL2012]
-- BPEL-55 - Introduced [SBPEL3024]
-- BPEL-59 - Introduced [SBPEL5001], [SBPEL5002]
-- BPEL-60 - Modified abstract text only
Moreover, spec revision 3+4 editing by Najeeb affected the following conformance items:
-- BPEL-52 - Deleted [SBPEL2004.2], [SBPEL3011], renamed [SBPEL3011.1] to [SBPEL3011]
-- BPEL-56 - Introduced [SBPEL3010.1]
Anish:
SBPEL3010.1 needs to be renamed to a "regular" numbering, just like the other ones
 
- just use a free number in the range
<Dieter Koenig>
rename [SBPEL2004.1] and [SBPEL3010.1]
 
<discussion of the approach to renumbering the conformance items with "." notation>
 
Decision is to renumber to use new numbers never used before.
Action: dieter to update the spec to remove "." from assertion lables
 
Test assertions need to be updated
Action: sanjay to update the TA doc to sync up with the new CD rev
 
Item 7 Testing
 
Already have the revised specification draft
 
Remaining schedule:
 
Planned schedule:
Feb 4 - Update Test Assertion Document
Mar 4 - Test Case Creation
Mar 25 - Review and finalization of Test Cases
Apr 1 - Go for 2nd PR
Sanjay:
Are there new assertions needed as well as updates to existing ones?
Anish:
Yes, new ones are needed.
Sanjay:
So ~5 assertions will be impacted
 
Item 8 Existing Issues
 
Issue 61 - Need to deal with variable initialization not being idempotent
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-61
RAISER: Danny van der Rijn
Anishs proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/201001/msg00006.html
Email discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/201001/msg00014.html
<anish>
<anish>
"The WS-BPEL specification requires that the variable initialization logic in scopes that contain (or whose children contain) a start
activity use only idempotent functions in the from-spec. In SCA, WS-BPEL process variables which are associated with either
SCA properties or with SCA multi-valued references have their values set by the SCA runtime based on the configuration of the
SCA domain composite for the component which uses the process as its implementation. Idempotency applies for a given
configuration of the SCA domain composite - but if the configuration of the SCA domain composite changes, then the values
of properties or of references can change. The SCA Assembly specification allows for a variety of SCA runtime designs,
including ones that permit the configuration of the SCA domain-level composite to change dynamically. See the SCA Assembly
specification [ASSEMBLY], specifically the sections on "Domain-Level Composite" (10.7), "Dynamic Behaviour of Wires in the SCA Domain"
(10. and "Dynamic Behaviour of Component Property Values" (10.9) for details. For such runtimes, the values of properties and of
muti-valued references can change with a change in the configuration of the Domain-level composite."
 
Danny discusses his concern, relating to statements in the BPEL specification.
Martin C damn pressed wrong button and hung up instead of mute
 
Mike moves to resolve Issue 61 with the wording in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/201001/msg00014.html added at the the end of Section 3.1
 
Dieter seconds
 
Motion passes unanimously
 
Issue 61 is resolved
Resolution: issue 61 resolved with wordings in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/201001/msg00014.html added at the the end of Section 3.1

[End of Minutes]
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