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Subject: Raw chat log of 2010-01-15 telcon
Mark Combellack: - Roll Call http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=sca-j - Appointment of scribe. List attached below - Agenda bashing - Approval of minutes for 1st February 2010 http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36295/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202010-02-01.doc - Approval of minutes for 8th February 2010 http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36315/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202010-02-08.doc 0. Administration - Open Issue Status: CAA + POJO: 0 EJB Binding: 0 Spring: 2 JEE: 6 Total Open: 8 1. Review action items: Action Items that I believe are done: 2010-02-01-01: Dave to create CDs for POJO and EJB Binding specifications 2010-02-01-02: Mike to check code in SVN matches specification docs Action Items that I believe are still to be done: 2009-07-06-01: Dave B to raise to liaison (so that other C&Is can consider and possibly assembly) that non-XML based C&Is should state how the conversion of property values happens 2009-07-17-01: Mike to create an example of the componentType introspection (JAVA-5 2009-09-28-05: Dave to look at unstated prereqs for JCI-TA-8005/8006 2009-11-09-01: Anish to point out specific locations for editorial corrections (s/./,/) for issue 150 proposal. 2010-02-01-03: Anish to provide non-normative text to resolve 166 per directional motion 2010-02-01-04: Mike to look at JAVA-182 and prepare a CD draft for Spring C&I 2. New Issues (Requires 2/3rds) None 3. Remaining Open Issues for JAA and POJO specifications None 4. Progress to Public Review a. SCA Java API jar file (Mike) Latest discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201002/msg00029.html http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36303/sca-apis-1.1.jar b. POJO (C&I) CD02 candidate (Dave) Latest discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201002/msg00012.html Note: Link in above email is not to the latest version so please use link below. http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36230/sca-javaci-1.1-spec-cd02.doc c. Latest CAA specification CD04 (Dave, Mike & Bryan) There are two versions - CD04 and CD04a with Java API changes CD04 version Latest discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201002/msg00025.html http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36297/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd04.doc CD04a Latest discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201002/msg00029.html http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36304/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd04a.doc d. EJB Binding CD02 candidate (Dave) Latest discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201002/msg00010.html http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36195/sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-cd02.doc 5. Open Issues with proposals ready for discussion (Spring/EJB/JEE) None 6. Issues waiting for updated proposals (Spring/EJB/JEE) a. JAVA-109: Property and reference names computed from SCA annotations in web modules not specified explicitly http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-109 Proposal in Jira Waiting for updated proposal (Vamsi) b. JAVA-182: SCA Spring C & I specs needs to refactor text under abstract and introduction http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-182 No proposal (Ram) c. JAVA-174: Consider portlets in the SCA JEE specification http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-174 d. JAVA-91: Java EE Spec: Need to define the derivation of the name of a component contributed to the Domain by an application.composite file http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-91 Waiting for updated proposal (Mike) e. JAVA-93: JEE Integration spec needs to define how effective CT is calculated http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-93 Waiting for updated proposal (Anish) f. JAVA-108: RFC2119 Language is needed for the SCA-JEE Specification http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-108 Waiting for updated proposal g. JAVA-88: Java EE Spec: The @archive attribute of the implementation.jee element needs fixing http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-88 No proposal Plamen to check whether on his informal JEE issues list h. JAVA-166: Spring C&I does not say anything about SCA annotations http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-166 Directional proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201002/msg00000.html (Anish) (Note: May be able to make progress on JAVA-144 depending on what happens with this issue) 7. AOB a. Straggler roll call --------------------------------------------------------------- Rotating scribe list: Graham Charters IBM (5) Yang Lei IBM (11) Plamen Pavlov SAP AG (3) Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation (14) Mike Edwards IBM (16) Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation (16) Bryan Aupperle IBM (21) Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation (1 Mike Edwards: I think Dave's forgotten to pay the bill for the conference lines Mike Edwards: I can't get in Mark Combellack: ah Mike Edwards: ok, I can get in via the US dial in Bryan Aupperle: My attempts to dial in are not being answered... Please change your name from 'anonymous' using the Settings button Mike Edwards: Which # are you trying Bryan? anish: Scribe: naish anish: Scribe: anish anish: Topic: agenda bashing anish: No changes, agenda approved. anish: Topic: Approval of 2010-02-01 minutes anish: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36295/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202010-02-01.doc anish: Resolution: Minutes of 2010-02-01 at http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36295/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202010-02-01.doc approved anish: Topic: Approval of 2010-02-08 minutes anish: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36315/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202010-02-08.doc anish: Resolution: Minutes of 2010-02-08 at http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36315/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202010-02-08.doc approved anish: Topic: Issue status anish: CAA + POJO: 0 EJB Binding: 0 Spring: 2 JEE: 6 Total Open: 8 anish: Topic: AI review anish: 2010-02-01-01 and 2010-02-01-02 are done anish: Everything else is pending anish: Topic: SCA Java API jar file anish: Latest discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201002/msg00029.html http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36303/sca-apis-1.1.jar anish: MikeE: the source is in SVN anish: ... we'll have to publish that along with the spec. The jar file is what everyone will use, but it is just compilation of what is in SVN anish: ... fixed a few bugs anish: ... The source and spec are now in sync anish: ... Included a maven build file anish: No comments on the API file(s) anish: MikeE: the files should be part of the PR anish: Topic: POJO (C&I) CD02 candidate anish: Latest discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201002/msg00012.html Note: Link in above email is not to the latest version so please use link below. http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36230/sca-javaci-1.1-spec-cd02.doc anish: Mark: Are we ready for PR? Are folks happy with it? anish: No comment from anyone anish: Mark: anyone unhappy with the drafts? anish: MikeE: the actual doc has change mark, we'll have to remove that before publishing anish: Anish: i think we should publish both, with change marks from previous CD and a clean version anish: MikeE: yes, but the current change marks are not from previous CD anish: Bryan: and there should be no change marks for the front page anish: MikeE: I think it is ready to go anish: Motion: MikeE moves Bryan seconds to make http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36230/sca-javaci-1.1-spec-cd02.doc as our CD02 and publish it anish: motion passes w/o anish: Resolution: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36230/sca-javaci-1.1-spec-cd02.doc is CD02 and published on docs.oasis-open.org anish: Motion: MikeE moves Bryan seconds to make Java CI CD02 as our 2nd PR lasting 15 days anish: motion passes w/o anish: Resolution: Java CI CD02 will be the 2nd PR lasting for 15 days anish: Topic: Latest CAA specification CD04 anish: Latest discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201002/msg00029.html http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36304/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd04a.doc anish: Mark: 4a is what we should be looking at. Is that correct? anish: MikeE: yes anish: MikeE: 4a does not contain just the change mark between 4 and 4a anish: MikeE reviews the changes for API in 4a anish: MikeE: the code in section Appendix B was correct. The changes were in the main section text anish: No comments from anyone on the changes anish: Motion: MikeE moves Bryan seconds to adopt http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36304/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd04a.doc of the CAA spec as CD04 and publish it anish: Motion approved w/o anish: Resolution: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36304/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd04a.doc is CAA CD04 and published to docs.oasis-open.org anish: Motion: MikeE moves Bryan seconds to publish the http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36303/sca-apis-1.1.jar (SCA API jar file) along with CD04 anish: Bryan: should we include "cd04" in the jar file name? anish: anish: makes sense to me anish: Amendment: Bryan moves MikeE seconds to rename the file to sca-apis-1.1-cd04.jar anish: anish: should it be sca-caa-apis-1.1-cd04.jar ? anish: MikeE: we don't have any other APIs, but it is possible that we have others, eg spring anish: Mark: could be mythical spring annotations anish: Amendment fails anish: Amendment: Anish moves Bryan seconds to rename the file sca-caa-apis-1.1-cd04.jar anish: Amendment approved w/o anish: Main motion -- publish the http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36303/sca-apis-1.1.jar (SCA API jar file) along with CD04 and call it sca-caa-apis-1.1-cd04.jar anish: Motion approved w/o anish: Resolution: SCA caa apis jar file to be published with CD04 and named sca-caa-apis-1.1-cd04.jar anish: Motion: MikeE moves Bryan seconds to make CAA CD04 our 2nd PR lasting 15 days anish: Motion: approved w/o anish: Resolution: CD04 will be the 2nd PR spec lasting 15 days anish: s/CD04/CAA CD04/ anish: Topic: EJB Binding CD02 candidate anish: Latest discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201002/msg00010.html http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36195/sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-cd02.doc anish: MikeE: I don't think Dave has made anything other than ed changes from the last draft anish: Anish: batch this with Spring C&I? anish: MikeE: Spring C&I has a few issues anish: Bryan: is this the 1st review anish: anish: yes anish: anish: don't want to batch ejb binding/spring with CAA/POJO, might be confusing anish: Motion: MikeE moves Bryan seconds to accept http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36195/sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-cd02.doc as our CD 02 and to publish it anish: Motion approved w/o anish: Resolution: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36195/sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-cd02.doc is EJB binding CD02 and will be published anish: Motion: MikeE moves Bryan seconds to make EJB binding CD02 our 1st PR draft with PR lasting 60 days anish: Motion approved w/o anish: Resolution: EJB binding CD02 will be the 1st PR draft with PR lasting 60 days anish: Topic: AIs for PRs anish: Need to clean up the docs, generate PDFs and HTML, generate diffs anish: MikeE: we have published EJB binding CD 01 anish: ... but was not made a PR anish: Action: Mike to clean up the docs, generate the diff anish: Action: Anish to generate the PDF and html files anish: Bryan: do we want to combine the POJO and CAA specs wrt publication and sending it to TC admin? anish: MikeE: yes anish: Mark: makes sense anish: Mark: do we need to update anything from assembly? anish: Action: MikeE to check if the RDDL needs to be updated for Java TC CDs anish: Action: Chair to submit the specs to TC admin for PR (when the packages are ready) anish: Meeting adjourned
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